Black Cleaver PBE changes effects?

ßurst·2/9/2017, 2:02:30 AM·1 votes·1,138 views

I wanna ask how do you think the black cleaver changes/slight nerfs for fighter champs that like to rush the item first. The changes seem like they'll put said champs really weak against tanks and really weak against other duelists who don't rush TBC first item. I'm talking about champs like Riven she'll have very sub par damage with cleaver, and champs such as fiora when needed against a heavy tank rush TBC instead of ravenous, even some other champs, but specifically these fighter style champs that struggle in top lane anyway. @Riot how do you feel these changes affect these champs?

15 Comments

Eedat2/9/2017, 2:08:18 AM3 votes

and champs such as fiora when needed against a heavy tank rush TBC instead of ravenous

Fiora has spammable %HP true damage. She does just fine against tanks.

Besides, the BC changes arent that big anyway

Variks the Loyal2/9/2017, 2:21:00 AM3 votes

This change will not effect Fighters at all. Skirmishers, Marksmen, and Assassins are generally not supposed to build Black Cleaver, so this is a nerf for them.

The change will not effect these builders (May be leaving a few out):

Darius Garen Illaoi Renekton JarvanIV Kled RekSai Pantheon Sion

The change will effect these builders, and is intended to:

Fiora Riven MissFortune Rengar Khazix Talon Quinn - Generally any non-Fighter building the item.

The answer - Rush something else like Ravenous Hydra, Blade of the Ruined King (Buffed for AD Casters!), Bloodthirster, or Youmuu's Ghostblade, if you're a melee champion anyway.

RexSaur2/9/2017, 2:12:07 AM2 votes

They want top to be tank only, its not surprising they did this to effecitively get top lane carries out of top lane.

SaltyKracka2/9/2017, 2:34:42 AM2 votes

Fuck 'em.

They didn't need buffing the way they did when they changed BC after the jugg patch anyways.

A Basic Island2/9/2017, 2:52:04 AM2 votes

i feel like this nerfs gonna backfire and it's even better now than it was before on just about every champ that would normally buy it