bot lane is the worst place to play in the game.

Maximum Ao Shin·Mar 7, 2015·3 votes·735 views

why?

because it's SIMPLY a race to see who can finish the same items first. ADC 1 got a kill before ADC 2 with approximately the same CS? ADC 1 wins, because they can get a BF sword right away. the support only matters for the first kill and to place wards to prevent ganks. there's no diversity in the bot lane champion pool OR the item paths. edge, shiv, bloodthirster, youmuu's, last whisper, maybe a GA. it's boring, it's dull, it's stagnant, it's repetitive, and it's absolutely ridiculous

10 Comments

The Bearded BardMar 7, 20152 votes

I hate it because I have to depend on someone whereas solo lanes it's mostly just me and sometimes the jungler til lane ends.

I love supporting but I hate ADC players. All but a few are toxic little asshats that can't take a shit without me holding their hand.

NoMonkuMar 7, 20153 votes

Hey man, It helps me feel safe taking that shit when you hold my hand :(. Why you hating on me

IcyPepperMar 7, 20152 votes

the support only matters for the first kill and to place wards to prevent ganks.

For the last time, supports aren't warding bots.

And if adc's seem to think, supports don't have to stay in bot lane forever. If my Ezreal yells at me for taking 1 cs, I'm going to go top with Rengar because I know he'll treat me reeeaaaaall good.

Maximum Ao ShinMar 7, 20153 votes

if i were in top lane, and a support randomly came up, i'd probably afk. why would i want to push my lane unintentionally while i become underleveled? while i wait for the enemy jungle to gank and secure easy kills.

IcyPepperMar 7, 20151 votes

Having a support in your lane doesn't necessarily push it...?

And if you're to go afk for something petty like that, it's not the support in the wrongdoing... Have you even played support of your own free will? Supports are supposed to roam a bit after the laning phase anyway. THe jungler isn't the only one who can gank (hell, anyone can gank).

NoMonkuMar 7, 20152 votes

For some ADC's this is true, but some are diverse or can go different paths. Ez/Corki/Kog usually rush item 3078 and Ez can also rush item 3043 if he wants. Kalista/Vayne can item 3153 while Kallista also being able to go item 3085 . Most of the others not listed, though, do benefit most from rushing IE, but not ALL ADC's rush to finish the same items in the same order. If you are still under the belief that it is "stagnant" and "repetitive" well that is just how ALL games turn out eventually. There is a meta and there is a path considered "best" which people adhere to because it gives you the most potential power. Almost all champions are exactly the same this way, where some things "counter" one another, but since this is just building up damage, you build up whats most effective for your character.

If you don't like ADC champs, play another role then.

Hirok0Mar 7, 20152 votes

As a support main, I am appalled by your blanket "supports don't matter after 1st kill" comment, and also the ENTIRE TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WARDING. My experience tells me that good coordination between a team that gave FB double kill and is now under-leveled and starter item against half of first items team will still burst fast enough to make that lead obsolete. Land a stun, burst enough dmg that they can't afford to fight you until backing. You get cs while they back and now you are caught up and they are scared of your coordination.

You need more experience, cough* LEVEL 10 (NA) cough

rumplesMar 7, 20151 votes

I wish adc item diversity existed. Other than that I don't agree with this. Support certainly matters.

disregardableMar 7, 20151 votes

It exists for some ADCs. It's just that Marksmen is really more of a playstyle than a role, and the only ADCs that have item diversity are the ones that can do something meaningful other than sustained DPS autoattacks.

67chromeMar 7, 20151 votes

because it's SIMPLY a race to see who can finish the same items first.

All lanes are a race to finish the same general items, and ADC do have a fair amount of diversity - you can rush AS items like Hurricane on Kalista, Kingblade on Kog/Vayne, Brutalizer/Ghostblade on Vayne/Lucian, Tri-Force on Corki/Ez, Bloodthirster/IE on Graves/Cait. It's not the same item 100% of the time, ADC itemization has vastly improved since season 1, and you've pretty much always got 2 evenly powered options at every phase in the game for their choices.

ADC 1 got a kill before ADC 2 with approximately the same CS? ADC 1 wins, because they can get a BF sword right away. the support only matters for the first kill and to place wards to prevent ganks.

? Supports are among the strongest early-game champions in the game, ADCs among the weakest. Supports aren't helpless and weak and played as supports because they're good at placing wards, supports are supports because they're the single strongest champions in the game without relying on item scaling, which tends to translate into extremely capable powerhouses of a champion early when all you have to work with are bases. Most supports are incredibly powerful when they do build a lot of items as well.

On this note - you can easily force a weak-sauce ADC to win their lane if you're playing a support, where you're pretty much screwed if you're an ADC and your support has no idea what they're doing.

there's no diversity in the bot lane champion pool OR the item paths. edge, shiv, bloodthirster, youmuu's, last whisper, maybe a GA. it's boring, it's dull, it's stagnant, it's repetitive, and it's absolutely ridiculous

There's pretty much as many ADC itemization choices as there are for any other class at the moment. Ditto for champions.

Just because meta-sheep stick to the gold, silver, and bronze picks doesn't mean you have to. People do that because they're trying to emulate the single best strategy, not the 4th best - but if you're blindly fallowing pros and hoping for a get-rich-quick strat, you'll usually miss all the important details that such a pick relies on in the first place. I always find it silly when the meta grabs hold of lane-swap, fast-push picks in yolo-queue. Or when they pick early-game, 20 minute win picks and proceed to sit on their butt and farm for 30 minutes.