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Another Undocumented Sona Nerf Discovered

Pika310·2/11/2015, 1:42:03 PM·7 votes·1,011 views

Sometimes when the skins team takes on large projects, they take a 'snapshot' of the champion's files to work on, including certain hard-coded values like base stats and movement speeds. Unfortunately, when the team finally finishes and implements the skin, those old values can be reintroduced to the game, overwriting any recent balance changes made.

Okay, understood. Seems simple enough, but wait a second here. Something seems off.

BASE ATTACK DAMAGE ~~50.04 ~~⇒ 52.04

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Sona/Background

There is no documentation of when Fearless nerfed Sona's AD. This change was made in complete secret at some time between now and July 30th. We the players were never informed and now that we know, everything about her current kit is brought into question. What other secret nerfs exist that we still have yet to notice?

  • Base mana?
  • Attack speed?
  • Aria's cast range?
  • Maybe even Crescendo's hit-box?

List of discovered secret nerfs:

  • Patch 4.13 - Hymn bolt range reduced 50 units
  • Patch 4.16 - Hymn bolt range reduced 100 units
  • Unknown patch - Base AD reduced by 2
  • ???
  • ???

19 Comments

junglerboy162/11/2015, 4:26:34 PM6 votes

Give Fearless a break already, he isn't the one writing patch notes and your incessant bitching about him is probably the single most obnoxious thing on the boards right now. It may very well have gone undocumented, but it's documented now and it wasn't even his fault. Also, please consider the fact that EVERYONE had their base stats tuned and adjusted this preseason, and they didn't document it all because that would be a laundry list of thousands of different stat changes. It is more than likely that the change to her AD was from preseason, not your silly little conspiracy that Fearless has it in for Sona.

Xtremey2/11/2015, 4:31:06 PM3 votes

the downvotes are strong in this thread

Sailor Mint2/11/2015, 2:08:55 PM3 votes

Her base AD has been 50 (+3) since at least May 2012. Written as 47 (+3) in the old system. She's probably using the values from an internal test build.

All of her other stats were changed when pre-season hit.

Miku Hime sama2/22/2015, 9:34:13 PM2 votes

Frankly, these biased hidden nerfs are just one sole reason on my long list of why I don't trust Riot employees. Other reasons include lying to our faces, staying completely silent, avoiding the questions they're presented and etc. A company is defined by its workers, so overall as a company, Riot is dishonest and completely prejudiced.

Agidyne2/11/2015, 2:38:41 PM2 votes

People are crying about Sona being removed 2 AD.

And now Given back.

Lol, I'm still waiting for my Apprehend range to be increased again and for it's Wind Up time to be removed.

HigeR2/11/2015, 4:43:01 PM1 votes

Because 2 AD is going to UTTERLY DESTROY SONA OMG JESUS CHRIST HOW COULD YOU DO THIS RITO, HOW CAN I WIN WITH ONE CHAMPION IF YOU TAKE 2 AD FROM THEIR KIT, THAT TWITCH LIVED WITH 2 HP AND NOW I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ATTACK HIM WITH, HOW DARE YOU, I HOPE YOUR WHOLE OFFICE EXPLODES IN A BLACK HOLE AND THE EARTH GETS SWALLOWED WHOLE!!!!!!!!!

FYI, internal changes may be something most people are not aware off, their "snapshot" might be from a time when they intended to buff Sona, but of course you're the kind of smart who sees all variables, right? ALSO, Fearless stated that hymn of valor values were NOT changed, so mostly a tooltip mistake since always.

Minrog2/12/2015, 12:29:52 PM1 votes

Sona needs a lot more than 2 AD to be worth using. :(

I'm seriously sad when a team picks her in a competitive game, because lose again. Maybe the OP is a troll but it's a shame that only Thresh, Braum, Annie, Blitzcrank and Morgana get to play.

Mat7itan2/11/2015, 2:06:00 PM1 votes

I think you're misunderstanding what is being said. When they did that small "update" while working on her skin they gave her a buff; however, upon implementing the new skin it reverts those small buffs back to her old base values (before the small update). This is because the values that were 'snapshot' did not get changed, and when the new skin comes into play that data overwrites the changes that were made.

Here's a simpler way of looking at it. You have 2 blank documents open in lets say notepad (really anything like open office, microsoft word, etc. would work). Now lets say in the first file you type: "Remove teemo" and in the second file you type: "Remove teemo because he is dumb" Of these two files the second one is better because it explains why to remove teemo. So you save this second file as doc1. Then when you save the first file you are not paying attention and you also save this as doc1 which overwrites the second file. Upon opening doc1 thinking it will say: "Remove teemo because he is dumb" you see that it actually says: "Remove teemo". You just did what riot essentially did to sona. They accidentally overwrote the better file.