please let karma proc passive on monsters

Nebuul·Jun 8, 2015·10 votes·993 views

Would it be possible to let karma proc her passive on monsters? This would let her jungle. I would love to play jungle karma.

EDIT: I actually agree that it would be OP to have this proc on chickens, so I amend my request to say that her passive will proc on large monsters and champions. That way, anything with a smite buff, baron, dragon, and champs will proc, but small monsters & minions won't. Otherwise you could reset your mantra with a single Q on chickens, it's true!

5 Comments

muR5aT2byzJun 8, 20154 votes

While that would be a great change, Karma already can jungle. Run AS reds/mastery, start krugs. With her able to use RW to heal off monsters, she can stay in the jungle almost indefinitely. My biggest worry as a jungler is that Karma's passive working on monsters is that it might be an indirect buff to lane Karma. Mid with wraiths, etc.

flibitydooJun 8, 20152 votes

That sounds really broken given that you can already cast RW on scuttles for free health (without retaliation damage).

So basically if you are getting harassed in lane, you can just safely Q a jungle camp (cause Q is a pretty decent ranged skillshot) and then RW for infinite health.

NebuulJun 8, 20151 votes

They could make it where her passive only works on large monsters, then. So basically anything with a smite bonus, Dragon, and Baron. That way she couldn't instant-recharge her ult timer on the multi-monster packs.

BeddlamJun 8, 20152 votes

This is a good idea Riot.

Teridax68Jun 9, 20152 votes

While the Karma changes were being tested, there was a bug that allowed her passive to proc on jungle monsters through W on the PBE. It significantly helped with her clear, and if it were to be fully implemented on large monsters she'd be able to have a pretty decent first run. Farther down the line, she runs into a few mana problems, but then again, that's pretty much par for the course for any AP jungler.

I really hope Riot does more to better integrate mages into the jungle. We recently had a massive update that finally put tanks back on the map (literally, with all the tank junglers on Summoner's Rift), and right now, although some roles could do with some love (autoattackers and marksmen aren't really in the best jungling spot), mages and supports are the only two roles where only a handful can survive the jungle at all, let alone do well as junglers. Champions like Karma , Leona , Karthus , Cassiopeia and many more have the potential to be phenomenal junglers, but either run out of mana or die (or both) before they can clear successfully. Tweaking them and jungle itemization/monster buffs a bit to give them an easier time would add even more diversity to the jungle, and would open up avenues for every role in the game to jungle in their own way.