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Let poppy Q ignore bonus Armor. or some of it.

MunchCrunchLunch·7/15/2017, 7:55:16 AM·3 votes·562 views

Ok. this will not make poppy kill squishies any faster. because bonus armor. or make her shit on tanks. rather be at least a threat. because you can ignore her damage for minutes if you have 1 armor item

anyway let me give you my reasoning.

there are two ad tanks in the game. sion and poppy. both have some %hp damage. poppy in her Q. and sion has some mixed damage and percent damage on his shield. now am not comparing sion and poppy. am contrasting

sion has armor shred on his E. which is overlooked. but its essential for sion because he needs it against tanks. he also has decent magic damage on E and W. poppy doesn't have this.

but tank as an ad tank top. poppy has to be a threat to other tanks. am not saying she should one shot tanks. because she won't. but she has to be able to deal a respectable amount of damage to them. not just tanks. but really anything that rushes armor early or mid game.

she doesn't really scale well with damage which is fair. you really dont do much damage on poppy if you build ad than not. because her ad scalings are really bad and her base ad is decent anyway.

she should be able to ignore some of targets armor. just on her Q at least. nothing else. just to be able to deal with anyone that isn't full squish top lane.

imo poppy has received the harshest nerfs of any tank in the game (this is not counting itemization because duh it applies to all tanks). shes sitting at 47% winrate after the "buffs" . with a massive 1% playrate. shes too weak especially considering shes supposed to counter the highest picked top laner. in riven.

tldr: make her Q ignore bonus armor or some of it. so that she can actually at least deal some damage to anyone with armor because she does nothing against armor. at least ap tanks benefit from the fact that MR is limited and rarely rushed.

6 Comments

JQKAndrei7/15/2017, 8:35:16 AM1 votes

Hmm, whenever I play Poppy I end up doing a ton of damage.

47% winrate doesn't look too bad to me, she has a decent skillcap, I wouldn't say she's in bad shape whatsoever.

And she does counter Riven and many others.

I wouldn't mind a buff, I just don't think it's all that necessary.

Evil Yasuo7/15/2017, 9:34:52 AM1 votes

Will I be attacked if I say I want an invincibility ult on her? I don't see the point of her new ult besides maybe for supporting bot lane. (I usually take her top and jungle)

Spoofghoul7/15/2017, 9:50:09 AM1 votes

i think giving her pen is a bad idea

you see that %damage has a really short cool down, it is really spammable

While Sion as a comparison has his %damage shield, that has the counterplay of needing to charge up for 3 seconds and you can kill the shield or avoid it. His magic damages have very poor scaling so there isn't any point in building to increase their damage

Also you have to account for available itemization

Poppy can get away with building Black cleaver since she is full on physical damage with pretty spammable abilities

That item still gives 400hp so it's not like you sacrifice a lot of bulk for it if you want to deal a lot more damage to beefy enemies then there is always that option available

Sasogwa7/15/2017, 10:29:24 AM1 votes

She already has powerful %health and a good tank kit with Cc, anti-dash and her ult. Making her a good tank fighter is wrong, she'd just be a juggernaught-cc tank that invalidates the concept of juggernaught.