What's the point of Vi's Denting Blows?

Linna Excel··1 votes·1,015 views

I mean I get it that it's a close copy of Vanye's W, but what's it doing on Vi?

Here's why I ask: Vi isn't really played as an AA based champ. This is an AA skill. Everyone plays her more for her burst damage, as in item 3078 builds than anything else. I never see people build something like bork on her to get as many AAs in as possible, maybe grab a LW to just chew through tanks as a linebacker. I never see her opting for a power farming devourer build, she'll usually go warrior, occasionally go Juggernaut.

There's also the problem of staying alive. Vanye's W barely works because she's got some distance and can minimize herself to risk. Vi is an all in champ and staying alive long enough to pound on someone for the 6 seconds you need to really get a lot out of this skill is a bit much to ask unless you go full tank. But if you go full tank, your AS is low and you won't have the big AD you need to get a lot out of the skill. Since you can't expect her to stay alive, you need to go burst.

Now her W would be great for all-ins up top or mid. But riot never really committed to making her solo lane viable even if that's how they first envisioned Vi.

So what's going on with this skill?

9 Comments

FantasySniper2 votes

% health damage is on a lot of tanks/bruisers. Armor Shred for easy damage. It also lets her get some DPS after she's used up all of her abilities, making it the key factor in jungle Vi's clear speed.

Niting1 votes

Technically speaking, in Riot's point of view Vi's a brawler, like Darius, or Trundle. A person who stays in fights due to be semi tanky as well as dishing it a lot of damage through spells AND AA through long teamfights.. So in their eyes, Vi's passive is fine.. But of course a player's point of view differs from Riot's, so I doubt they'll change anything :/

City of Toronto1 votes

Vi is perfectly viable top lane, its just that her ganks and map pressure is strong so she is very good in jungle.

Her W is good if you know how to play well. You stay ahead of the enemy when attacking, you reset auto timer with E, which can allow u to get 3 hits off very easily.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

It's pretty useful when going for a gank. Mostly suitable when your laner is an AD champ:

  1. You use Q onto an enemy, applies 1 stack.

  2. Use an autoattack, applies 2nd stack.

  3. Then quickly activate your E, 3rd stack applied, and there goes the bonus damage & armor shred.

  4. Pretty much an effective ganking skill which also implies your laner will also dish out additional damage thanks to that armor shred.

iainB851 votes

It's quite good for Vi jungle, her most played role.

Lumus Avatar1 votes

Considering that both Vault Breaker and Excessive Force proc denting blows, her initiating combo ends with a damage burst from Denting blows' third stack. I build BOTRK on her in order to get in as many AAs as possible since I play her as an all in brawler with a focus on tankiness and attack speed, beating my enemies down faster than they can beat me down and chasing them down (Vault Breaker, Assault and Battery) if they try to run.

USG Morta1 votes

honestly right now i build her devourer + mobies then ganks and power farm. if we laning faze is extended i go for bork and keep ganking and farming, if laning has collapsed then its time for some tankiness to live (maybe) through teamfights and i'll wait to get bork 3rd.

a final build for me typically is: jungle item w/devourer, mobies or exchanged for merctreads eventually, bork, randuins, spirit visage, and last item is situational. maybe a ga or thornmail, or a maw.

SouL1ess1 votes

Because her Q applies W, her E is an AA reset and has two charges, and she doesn't even need to build AS to be able to activate Denting blows for Denting blows to increase her own AS, lower enemy Armor, and do a hefty amount of damagae.

boneslapper1 votes

Blade of the ruined King is disgusting on vi especially if it's paired with Lord Dominic's regard then throwing Black Cleaver effectively no one has armor and you do a ridiculous amount of damage. Attack speed on her is extremely powerful but your position has to be good if you get CC you're going to blow up fast but that's true for any squishy

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