Are Fighter/Slayers the only counter to Fighter/Tanks?

Vekkna··1 votes·935 views

I've seen many times that League is a sort of rock/paper/scissors game with something resembling the following hierarchy:

Tanks (and Mages late) counter Assassins Assassins counter ADCs (and Mages early) ADCs counter Tanks and outscale Mages

What I don't understand is where the Fighter/Slayer and Fighter/Tank categories fit within the rock/paper/scissor game. A few examples:

Camille Fiora Garen Hecarim Irelia JarvanIV Jax Olaf Renekton Shyvana Udyr XinZhao Yasuo

The hallmarks of these champs is the following list:

  • cc, cc immunity, and/or damage immunity
  • very strong chase/engage but can be very difficult to catch
  • tank durability or drain tank sustain
  • true damage, hybrid damage, or armor shred
  • burst damage nukes squishies
  • dps shreds tanks and objectives

So the question is, do these subclasses only counter one another? Assuming equal income, what are assassins, mages, and tanks supposed to do against these guys. My experience says you can only run the other way until team fight time, at which point the tank does their best to lock down and peel, the mage uses their full rotation, and the assassin uses their mobility to secure the kill.

The next question is whether the archetype itself is fundamentally flawed. Should durability, burst, dps, cc, and mobility/speed all be packed into the same champ?

2 Comments

WalkingInACircle1 votes

League's balance isn't broken down into dueling ability. A good fighter should be dominant in 1v1 river duels - they're very lackluster in team fights.

Vekkna1 votes

You say they're not very good in team fights, but that's pretty much the opposite of what I'm seeing game after game. I think they're not supposed to be good in team fights, but that's not really aligning with reality at the moment. Irelia, Udyr (until late), and Jax would be the ones with the clearest team fight weakness.

Maybe they seem more powerful compared to last season because of solo/duo?

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