I don't understand LP gain and loss.

Kiyo Crescent·Apr 30, 2016·1 votes·604 views

Hey guys! How are you doing? So I dropped from G3 to S1 in a week. Today I decided to try to climb back up. I get on, have a few on and off games, wins and losses and somehow after an equal amount of both i drop down to 11 lp from 43. So, i play a few more get 4 wins in a row and then 1 loss and that 1 loss dropped me 24 lp. My wins got me 14 lp. How am I supposed to gain rank if the games I do win only count for about half of the games I lose. I feel like my entire day has been wasted. Sitting at 46 LP from 11 lp and basically 3 wins. That averages out to be about 12 lp a win. How does that seem even remotely ok?

5 Comments

JamareeApr 30, 20162 votes

How much LP you gain or lose depends on two factors, MMR, and your rank and those are affected by your W/L ratio.

If you are winning a lot and have a higher W/L ratio, you will gain more LP because it is the system trying to configure you to a spot it thinks you deserve, to be better matched with players of your skill level, in turn, the exact opposite is true as your W/L ratio goes into negatives.

Right now, your MMR is about 1300 and your current W/L ratio is below 1:1 with you have about ten more losses then wins so the system is going to drop you down believing you are a lower rank to match along with your MMR.

All an all, all you have to do to fix your LP gains, is get back into a positive W/L ratio, and maintain it. In theory, as long as you maintained even a 51% win rate in ranked, you could, once again, in theory, make it to Challenger.

Kiyo CrescentApr 30, 20161 votes

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How much LP you gain or lose depends on two factors, MMR, and your rank and those are affected by your W/L ratio.

If you are winning a lot and have a higher W/L ratio, you will gain more LP because it is the system trying to configure you to a spot it thinks you deserve, to be better matched with players of your skill level, in turn, the exact opposite is true as your W/L ratio goes into negatives.

Right now, your MMR is about 1300 and your current W/L ratio is below 1:1 with you have about ten more losses then wins so the system is going to drop you down believing you are a lower rank to match along with your MMR.

All an all, all you have to do to fix your LP gains, is get back into a positive W/L ratio, and maintain it. In theory, as long as you maintained even a 51% win rate in ranked, you could, once again, in theory, make it to Challenger.

Thanks for the reply! I understand that my W/L isn't the best at the moment, but in general my worst grades are between an A- or B+ in games. Usually in my wins it is an S or an A+. I just guess I wish the system wasn't rigged against those playing well with poor team coordination or poor team attitude toward the game.

JamareeApr 30, 20162 votes

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Thanks for the reply! I understand that my W/L isn't the best at the moment, but in general my worst grades are between an A- or B+ in games. Usually in my wins it is an S or an A+. I just guess I wish the system wasn't rigged against those playing well with poor team coordination or poor team attitude toward the game.

Champion Mastery has absolutely zero to do with ranked actually, grades are done on a completely different system whereas ranked and LP is simply decided if you won or lost it is also reasons like that, people are begging for solo queue back.

Kiyo CrescentApr 30, 20161 votes

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Champion Mastery has absolutely zero to do with ranked actually, grades are done on a completely different system whereas ranked and LP is simply decided if you won or lost it is also reasons like that, people are begging for solo queue back.

I'm aware, I'm more or less alluding to my performance throughout all of my games as satisfactory for a higher elo than I am being placed. I just wish individual performance actually did factor in a little bit more. If you want to be judged based off of how good your team is, just go play ranked 5's. If you want to play in a team-esque scenario, formulated more so around individual performance; why not grade it as such?

JamareeApr 30, 20161 votes

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I'm aware, I'm more or less alluding to my performance throughout all of my games as satisfactory for a higher elo than I am being placed. I just wish individual performance actually did factor in a little bit more. If you want to be judged based off of how good your team is, just go play ranked 5's. If you want to play in a team-esque scenario, formulated more so around individual performance; why not grade it as such?

Because then people would be selfish and play for themselves, purposely prolonging games and such to get higher and more LP rather then end the game as swiftly as possible.