Quinn/Valor still doesn't fill the shoe (fit the glove) that the old Quinn left behind. It changed her role completely and I miss her badly. 22nd most played Quinn NA has had to quit playing her because she isn't Quinn and Valor the team. She is Quinn and Valor the taxi.
Vesarixx7 votesI know what you mean, the old Quinn was just so much more enjoyable to play, she had a strong early game and was somewhat snowball reliant, but if you got a lead you could 1v1 pretty much anyone and assassinate enemy carries, it doesn't really even feel rewarding anymore to get fed, you need to watch who you try to duel, and you need to be either very far ahead or going after low health enemies to be able to execute someone, the ult doesn't feel nearly as good to use as before, I can't use it to pull off clutch escapes or turn a fight, it's glorified mobility boots that cost mana to use.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesIf you think that Quinn still doesn't have a good early game, still can't assassinate carries, and can only kill low health targets, then you are playing Quinn wrong. In fact, she can duel people even more, as her blind now affects all people equally. With the old blind, good luck dueling a mage, because you're going to get killed pretty easily
Valor Bot5 votesI think what s/he means is that Quinn's early game isn't as strong as it used to be. Pre-rework, two consecutive Harrier procs at level 1 would chunk people for about half their health, if not more.
Her assassinations aren't really as swift and easy to pull off anymore, either. Before, with Valor, you could just E to a target and get a guaranteed Q off instantly, provided you clicked fast enough. Now, you have to aim your Q -- which is vital to the fight because it's the hardest-hitting ability in Quinn's kit -- and make sure you're not getting blocked by minions while you're at it, since you're no longer smack-dab in the enemy's face.
Not to mention her old Q was just plainly better at fighting fed ADCs with than her current one; or at least, it required much less finesse.
TenshouSNK5 votesOP is right tho.
Valor is suppose to be a Champion too in his own right. Valor is pretty much her deceased brother's reincarnation. She sees her brother in him that is what pursued her to become demacia's greatest scout.
"TAG TEAM" was a signature move of Quinn. Because we all know it has always been Quinn and "VALOR" not just Quinn.
From a LORE standpoint. OP is right.
Goosetard4 votesRito has stated that, although they feel bad about the way old quinn mains dislike the changes, they are pleased with how she now has her own Strategic Identity. I think that means she's very unlikely to change. I feel your pain :( rip my pocket OP toplane pick.
Kiyo Crescent5 votesRito has stated that, although they feel bad about the way old quinn mains dislike the changes, they are pleased with how she now has her own Strategic Identity. I think that means she's very unlikely to change. I feel your pain :( rip my pocket OP toplane pick.
Yeah, they like the new Strategic Identity.... Why not make a new champion with that identity then? (Not mad at you it is just..... WHY RITO WHY.) She has already gone down in picks by quite a bit, and honestly the old Quinn had just as much strategic diversity with her ult's potential movement and power in duels. Now her power in duels is quite literally halved or more.
Tract7 votesI had some fun with the new Quinn when she was free, but I got bored very quickly, besides just flying around at lightspeed, I really kinda hate the new Quinn. Technically she has a unique strategic identity, but she was pretty damn unique before too, I dont even own her, but I really dont like the new Quinn in comparison. R.I.P.
-An Azir main, your fellow bird feels your pain.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesJust a point, but most of us Quinn mains actually do like Quinn right now
Valor Bot3 votesYeah, playing Quinn doesn't really feel as satisfying to me anymore. I'll still use her because she's my comfort pick, and I'm glad she's got a more clearly-defined role in teams now, but at the expense of not being able to play as her other half, Valor? Not worth.
I've wondered what Quinn would be like today if they'd just kept her Q and R the same while leaving the passive and E QoL changes in. Considering the meta we're in and the amount of awesome marksmen items there are currently, I think she'd be doing just fine, if not wonderfully.
Kiyo Crescent3 votesThanks guys, I'm just glad that I'm not alone of my dislike of the change. The new Quinn might as well be a new champion. Her e is the only mechanic that stayed the same, and I loved it with the anti-adc assassin capabilities of Quinn. Her w doesn't give an ats buff anymore (which was a pretty massive buff). Her q is completely revamped because you don't have the melee guaranteed version of it. It doesn't do the blind anymore though, although it does do an aoe vision reduction. Her ultimate is the biggest mess of a change riot has made to a single champion in my opinion. I get that the "identity" is solidified, but the champion definitely is not my Quinn & Valor.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesW still does give an AS buff
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesNo, it didn't really change her playstyle much. Instead of just ulting to finish off a low health target, you deal that burst through your harrier marks, and you can ult in from half a map away to kill a target. You're a better Rengar in that regard.
Kiyo Crescent4 votesNo, it didn't really change her playstyle much. Instead of just ulting to finish off a low health target, you deal that burst through your harrier marks, and you can ult in from half a map away to kill a target. You're a better Rengar in that regard.
You move quickly yes, but no matter what you will never be able to do the damage that Rengar does in one shot late game. As a side note I actually signed petition that was eventually taken down that had 150ish signatures from Quinn mains only to revert the changes. Only 175 Quinn mains (ish) saw the petition. Most old Quinn mains don't main Quinn anymore.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesI can one shot carries with Quinn as well. I just can also do it from half a map away, then rejoin my team where ever they are in 2 seconds
And as for the popularity thing, I've got a subreddit of 872 people that all enjoy Quinn. So your move on that point (and really don't like the downvotes for stating a widely regarded fact)
Pika3102 votesAgree fully. I had to quit playing her too myself. I feel your pain, but I know you feel it much worse since she was your main.
J Epstein1 votesQuinn main here. You're building Quinn all wrong. 
really isn't that good. neither is 
. Try building 
and enjoy those wins.
Her kit is more reliable and better all around. Her old passive was clunky and the steroid on her ult kept her from having power on her base kit. you shouldn't be one shotting people like rengar. You should be kiting and roaming. "oh mid is being pushed hard and needs a gank?" ult then get to mid lane before the enemy laner realizes you've even left lane.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesWell, I don't like the Ghostblade route, but that is the highest winrate build, as well as the build most of r/QuinnMains use. As for BT, why would that be a bad item? Lots of AD, best lifesteal item, and gives a very powerful shield. BoRK is pretty niche item for most champions now, as the cost was increased
J Epstein1 votes isn't that good because is essential on quinn, and by that time you deal plenty enough dmg that BT would just be overkill for raw AD, provides %hp dmg for tanks/ juggernauts, as well as Lifesteal, AS and a good active.
Just what works for me, and what I've noticed from playing with/ against other Quinn's. Make me cringe when I see Quinn being built/ played wrong.
ModWulf Helhammer1 votesSame for me, but I hold that BT is the superior item for Quinn over BoRK. You don't really need the AS past greaves, SS, and your passive, and the greater raw AD allows you to burst much harder against not only squishies, but tanks as well. Unless they are rocking a true monster tank (in which case a Lord Dominik's regards is probably better), it's not that great to specifically itemize against them
Just my opinion on it http://static2.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1551/15516851/2941773-lfs22.png
J Epstein2 votesIf they have a true tank that I can't burst I get botrk and lord dominiks but it's not core to my build so I left it out.
That being said, you've convinced me that maybe I should look at my build and give BT another chance. Civil arguments ftw :D
Paladin 0f Life1 votesLol I love the new Quinn I always play her ftp and will buy her soon. She is slightly different but she is now viable in basically any role if played right. Her kit fits my playstyle and she isn't as hard to play now. Overall I like her but if they change anything with ziggs besides his e I will rage quit league
