how do you exactly 1v1 any champion that goes well with rageblade?

MunchCrunchLunch·Jan 31, 2016·9 votes·1,318 views

I mean. i destroy xin zhao as vi 1v1. and then buys rageblade and i am an item ahead and i still lose the 1v1?

22 Comments

The Bíg TicketJan 31, 20163 votes

You don't 1v1 them.

The champs that build are super strong 1v1 anyway, even without Rageblade Jax destroys most champs in a duel, so does Xin.

I guarantee you that Xin Zhao will beat Vi 1v1 if equally fed.

DorkunedAurasJan 31, 20162 votes

Well, depending on the build. If they both build full squishy, vi will probably win through burst Q-AA-E-AA-E-AA-Ult-AA is far more than enough to kill any squishy when vi has damage.

Sire HippingtonJan 31, 20163 votes

it's like with vayne: you don't!

Xin, jax and Irelia are all 1v1 specialliced champs, and rageblade is a 1v1 item. If you try to beat them at their game, you will loose. Force teamfights or gank them. Rageblade is bad in teamfights, cause unlike lane you can't pre stack it befor the fight, and the cc in teamfights makes it hard to stack it and ustilze the AA-dps. It also gives no defense at all and no utillity. Unless far ahead, a rageblade user will be shit in teamfights, and also rather bad vs ganks as they usually have poor escapes and are fairly squishy due rageblade rush.

In lower elos, rageblade probably is a big issue as you hardly find the coordination to force fights or gank a superior deuelist, and even in teamfights you probably got to little focus and cc to really shut a rageblade user down.

DrehirthJan 31, 20161 votes

So spot on.

MunchCrunchLunchJan 31, 20162 votes

i have 140k mastery with jax. I am completely knowledgable abotu the item. everyone that builds devourer and rageblade. simply cannot be 1v1 by anybody that doesn't have it on reasonable circumstances. unless its a fiora that 4 shots you or something like that . a mele vs mele champ 1v1 is just lame.

10TicklerFeb 1, 20161 votes

Again: Nasus Counters your argument.

Hayaishi2Jan 31, 20161 votes

Welcome to League Of Legends.

MunchCrunchLunchJan 31, 20161 votes

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Welcome to League Of Legends.

I built rageblade vi and got a quadra kill in a match where the whole other team was fed. I mean rageblade makes you make any champion a mele god. i mean even blitzcrank. am not joking here i build blitz with it and I was going 1v2 and winning. broken item.

its just not fun anymore. i don't want to build rageblade to be of use to my team. why can't I go ad?. why can't I go glass cannon and blow them up. why can't I go tanky and survive. you really can't do anything against a rageblade team. unless you build it yourself too. and after that it depends on who uses its stats more optimally which decides the 1v1.

DrehirthJan 31, 20163 votes

you don't need to win 1v1 to be of use to your team though is the flaw in your logic >.>

MunchCrunchLunchJan 31, 20161 votes

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you don't need to win 1v1 to be of use to your team though is the flaw in your logic >.>

what about splitpushing? getting ganked in my jungle. counterjungled?.

DrehirthJan 31, 20163 votes

aren't you talking about the toplane vi game? She's not a good duelist if she can't burst their opponent. especially against a sated xin with challenging smite he definitely wouldn't have even needed the rageblade to duel you. You have to pay attention to power spikes and also look at items to generally know if you can 1v1 somebody.

If you can't 1v1 them you don't go to split push unless you think you can push and run away before they come to kill you. After sated + rageblade has to be at least midgame especially if you said you were ahead as in they didn't snowball, so getting counter jungled is completely up to the momentum of the game if your team in general can't defend the jungle or not, it wouldn't (or shouldn't) come down to a pure 1v1 between junglers... And do I really need to say that it was probably the 26/9/3 quinn that won them the game and not the 29% kill participation jungler xin >.>

TroiannJan 31, 20161 votes

You don't.

Malix FarwinJan 31, 20161 votes

Still not ure why that item exist. League will function just fine without it.

CPU BIancJan 31, 20161 votes

You play ap fiora , somehow you'll still win the duel because fiora is bs.

FioraWillCarryJan 31, 20161 votes

how do you exactly 1v1 any champion that goes well with rageblade?

Buy a Rageblade too ?

Rundus1Jan 31, 20161 votes

Personally, I enjoy some Malzahar. I will always do the necessary damage to kill them (unless I feed) and I can take them 1v1 until they get qss, and then I can just punish them severely for trying to prestack and watch my positioning until they are low enough to 1 combo. Plus I get ahead early from sheer lane-bullying

La BarbotteJan 31, 20161 votes

league is a 1v1 game, some champions arent meant to be 1v1'd, crazy right ? you have four teamates (i swear) and thats how you win, babysit you to victory

MelledoneusFeb 1, 20161 votes

As Kel'thuzad once said...

"Pray for mercy."

10TicklerFeb 1, 20161 votes

Play someone with high base sustain (Nasus)

get Spirit Visage

Get Deadman's

Stack Q

Stack Deadman's proc on Q on Xin's head.

Laugh as your W slows his AA's by 70% and you walk behind him and Q him again.

MunchCrunchLunchFeb 1, 20161 votes

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Play someone with high base sustain (Nasus)

get Spirit Visage

Get Deadman's

Stack Q

Stack Deadman's proc on Q on Xin's head.

Laugh as your W slows his AA's by 70% and you walk behind him and Q him again.

you mean. play nasus. thats it. even nasus gets destroyed by xin as xin heals quickly too.

SasogwaFeb 1, 20161 votes

If Nasus gets 1v1ed by a Xin, the Nasus is either 0-5, trolling or bronze. Nasus decently farmed is stronger than rageblade Xin in 1v1, it's not really about sustain, more about sheer damage and tankiness. Also rageblade does not define a duel. MasterYi with no rageblade can easily dumpster rageblade XinZhao in mid-lategame.

10TicklerFeb 1, 20161 votes

A: What Sasogwa said.

B: Nasus gets tanky anyways, know what's super tanky and great against AA-based champions?

item 3110 . Armor, AA-slowing Aura item 3143 Armor, HP, Slowing Field Active and Anti-crit passive Nasus' Ultimate. HP, Range increase, AOE magic Damage. Nasus' W. AA/MS slow Nasus' Q. High Single-target Damage on a low Cooldown. Nasus' Passive. 15% Lifesteal, for Free, on each Q and Auto Attack item 3065 . 20% Bonus on your Free Lifesteal. Nasus' E. MR-shredding AOE.

Ok, XinZhao , Keep fighting Me. Your AA's are slowed from FH, Your Crits are reduced from RO, Your AA's are slowed and so are you from my Wither, and Spirit Fire's Whittling away at your MR, so when I ult, my Swirling AOE Deathfield does EVEN MORE DOT and as you do that and heal slightly every third AA, I'm going to keep Slamming you with my 2 second CD Q, healing for 250+ HP per strike, and 50-60HP every basic AA.

Even without his Ultimate, Nasus Directly counters ANY Melee Autoattacking Carry or Fighter, just through his first three abilities and natural build path.