Alrighty, since I've been asked about 80 times why I ban Riven:

WutsKraken··29 votes·2,709 views

I know how to lane against her. I win lane vs her about 70% of the time, other times where I'm unfortunately counterpicked I get stomped or I'm massively outplayed.

However, I am not always guaranteed top vs her, therefore when my top laner gets his ass handed to him at lvl 2 for FB or something like that, there's nothing left to do because she's guaranteed to do a tower dive at lvl 6 for another kill and snowball to victory.

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Hard Penetrator15 votes

There is also this 3rd option.

There might be guys in the enemy team that mains Riven.

And most of them are absolutely shit at anything else.

ElegantDoge4 votes

Can confirm.And big thing is,they might become toxic if she's ban.

Nameless Voice4 votes

This is one of the main reasons I ban her. At low Platinum rank, there are a lot of people who got there solely by playing Riven. They usually have the Battle Bunny skin, are really good at her mechanics / animation cancelling, but have poor map awareness and generally poor teamwork (they are more likely to be toxic); they also tend to be bad at any other champion.

I ban Riven with the hopes that if such players are on my team, they'll dodge, but if they are on the enemy team, they'll pick something else and fail hard.

(I also ban her because I hate trying to gank her if she is doing well in lane, which often results in her just turning around and murdering me in a 1v2.)

Maximum Zilean5 votes

Theres actually 2 reasons I ban Riven

1: You mentioned it

2: So nobody on my team picks her. I know how Riven players are if they die once.

ElegantDoge3 votes

Let me guess,they become the God of toxicity?Pretty sure i'm right on that one :D

DeathToHeretics2 votes

Oh my god yes. I banned Riven when we had someone who mained her on our team, and he instantly called me an "autistic f***ing retard." And spammed the chat because he didn't get his champ for one game. People should look into why Riven makes people toxic.

Diananmen Square1 votes

It probably has to do how Riven mains think they are a fusion of BoxBox, BRNA and Lord Master King in one super Riven main.

Tannhäuser Gate2 votes

you forgot faker and the shy

Diananmen Square1 votes

Oh shit yeah.

How could I forget about The Shy, I really am dumb.

HighH12 votes

Whenever I play top and lane against Riven I rejoice as I can almost guarantee they'll jump on poor little Nasus because I have a 'weak' early game and take 3 tower shots/get blasted to hell by minions so I can an easy +6

ChaosThief1 votes

So somebody dropped this off on another forum, I want you guys to play "find the riven"

http://i.imgur.com/kc0yZ1j.png

...seriously though. Her own little island.

Thresh Outta Fux1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Maximum Zilean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BhKXgmgz,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-08-15T04:20:10.138+0000)

Theres actually 2 reasons I ban Riven

1: You mentioned it

2: So nobody on my team picks her. I know how Riven players are if they die once.

Take my upvotes.

Rew7112 votes

If they pick Riven, I pick Yorick. Even with her Q, my W stops her, I have a E heal and a Q to deal bonus damage. My R also allows me to poke turret with no real consequence. She can ult all she wants, the problem is my passive and her trying to catch me.

Tomatosx1 votes

Because you men don't know how to handle a woman champ without going crazy. Yet when a women plays a woman champ you don't see us being overly toxic, or intent feeding now do you?

You men should take notes instead of treating us as your breeding station.

Davy Crockett4 votes

Chogath Gotta knock 'em up and silence them for 9 months. Then disappear (especially against champs like Riven).

CubedJustice1 votes

I assumed this was unfunny satire, but after reading past posts, I'm not so sure anymore.

Vesarixx4 votes

I ban Ezreal just because whenever a team mate picks him they miss everything, get behind and then still rush item 3070 , then end up being useless the entire game.

FistOfSharkiesha1 votes

Ezreal Goes OOM 5 minutes into the game after missing 70% of his CS and pushing the lane. Returns to lane 2 levels behind with nothing but a tear. Uses his ult to farm minions. Completely OOM as he goes in for a trade against the 100% hp enemy ADC and support. "Wtf how did we lose that trade you noob support."

Vesarixx1 votes

yep, like 99% of the ezreals in solo queue

Arcane Azmadi3 votes

Yeah, can't argue with that. When the enemy top lane Riven INEVITABLY gets a 3 minute first blood, the game is basically over. Watch as your top lane returns top to die again and again, then your jungler ganks for him to serve Riven up a nice double kill and she rapidly becomes able to 1v4.

She's unbelievably snowbally.

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

That is the reason behind most of my bans in general. Sure, I know how to beat that champion.

I just don't trust my team to.

Meep Man3 votes

I always ban feast or famine champions, at least until the players around me seemingly can more consistently make them go famine. Riven and Katarina are too risky to leave on the field since, if fed, they are INCREDIBLY hard to stop.

Vesarixx1 votes

I started playing Kat the other day, with her kit, she should not be winning lane, but half of the games I've played I have been ahead or even in CS, and killed my lane opponent 2-3 times before the laning phase ends, and even if I don't, I just need to roam to a side lane at the right time and I get right back into the game or ahead.

CreationFlaw2 votes

My problem with champions like riven/katarina is I stomp them in lane, or do well and I don't give up kills and maybe take a kill or two, then they roam and even if I ping, the botlane is so herpyderpy that they often just stay at the outertower when they're both at 300 health instead of walking back to the inner.

Not Katarina1 votes

Yeah, that really stinks. I get that a lot in my games. But then I stop and think "Hey, just because my botlane is retarded doesn't mean these champions deserve nerfs."

Thus continues the endless cycle of botlane feeding.

Mr Broken Wings2 votes

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My problem with champions like riven/katarina is I stomp them in lane, or do well and I don't give up kills and maybe take a kill or two, then they roam and even if I ping, the botlane is so herpyderpy that they often just stay at the outertower when they're both at 300 health instead of walking back to the inner.

Rivens comebackpotential isnt nearly as strong as the comebackpotential of katarina, she actually has a really hard time getting back into the game against non idiots. Btw, yes. Riven suckz currently and is in her weakest state since release and winning against her isnt a problem if you are not braindamaged currently. But if you have this special person on toplane who feeds her in the first 2 minutes then yes, she will snowball AS A CHAMPION WHO IS DESIGNED to do that.

Diananmen Square1 votes

Weakest state? Not at all!

She is a solid meta pick right now and is seeing play in the LCS.

Patch 5.16 will be Riven's wet dream: RIP Garen's silence, Darius' instant Q (she can shield the damage now) and armor nerfs.

Tannhäuser Gate1 votes

look at his name

he is delusional and thinks he wins because he is skilled at a bad champ and not because riven is stupidly broken on people who abuse the bug of animation cancelling

Shanko1 votes

That's a rather bold assumption based on his name alone.. Besides, he mains Rengar.

Tannhäuser Gate1 votes

sorry thought i was replying to mr broken wings

Only Play Darius1 votes

Same reason I would ban LeBlanc (pre-nerf). I know how to deal with her in lane but it seems like no one else does, they just feed her and I don't feel like dealing with a 6/0 Leblanc 10 minutes into the game because she's a bitch.

Bronze Rumble1 votes

its hard to stomp out riven because even if you kill her pre 6,she can still make a comeback; she has the deadliest lvl 6 all in, in the game; that even if you were ahead, you are still not guaranteed to beat her when she hits lvl 6 and tried to go all in to kill you

TheI3igDaddy1 votes

Same reason I ban Kat.

Why should I take the risk of her going even / losing mid lane and then simply roaming bot multiple times because they're not fucking warding?

A Miss Fortune1 votes

I agree, if Katarina picks up a few kills early game it goes a really long way and allows her to absolutely stomp the game. Even if you have CC it's meaningless since it can take her far less than even 0.5 seconds to instakill you.

Sure most Katarina players think they can 1v5 at level 1 and will most likely feed, but I think there's a huge risk in not banning her in solo queue in all elos simply because of how hard she snowballs.

BuzzinTate1 votes

Rivens Q is her main problem, just give it a hydra effect for the first slashes and a gap closer and knockup for the last one.

Krigjer1 votes

Sounds like why I ban Blitz.

As a support main, I KNOW how to lane against him. I know how to dodge hooks. But come teamfights he usually wrecks just because there are so many targets and there's so much going on.

TotalJerk1 votes

Reminds me of why I hate laning against champions like Yasuo. I can easily shut him down in lane, but then he roams and bot gives him a double kill.

Teslyn1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1920801120/203689087?tab=overview

heres a game that i dealt with a riven...

take notice on when she started getting kills and how she kept getting kills.. it was not a fun game.. (ps: i played the zyra)

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