So can Liss get her Q's base damage back?

Catastrop··3 votes·530 views

Or maybe her W's 60% scaling instead? Although I'd prefer Q. I ask because all the meta mages don't give a flying hoot about the overall AP going down, but ap champions like Liss, with low base damage and equally average scalings are definitely are starting to feel it. Especially now that Blue Buff is losing it's bonus AP.

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FortisDominus1 votes

The thing is that liss has 4 abilities that do damage and are not hard to chain together. 2 of which are hard CC (one being point and click) as well as a slow. Although she could use a buff; a buff that is too strong will make her a top lane nightmare like most range top laners.

Catastrop1 votes

I definitely understand this, I play her toplane a lot and she's pretty oppressive if the enemy doesn't have much knowledge of the matchup. It's pretty much why I'd prefer Q's base damage as it's basically just an extra 25 damage at max rank. It wouldn't be tipping any scales at top because she's clearing the minions with the same number of spellcasts either way and her damage is still manageable with just a item 3211. It's mostly a buff request for midlane because she's pretty outclassed by other mages there.

Jax Cramer2 votes

People who play Lissandra toplane are pussies who are too bad (scared) to actually interact with their lane opponent. So they stand back and spam Q every 3 seconds and if the enemy tries to fight them they eat a Q slow in their face, get snared and if they happen to still be in range Lissandras E away.

And you want this playstyle to be buffed..lmfao.

Catastrop2 votes

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People who play Lissandra toplane are pussies who are too bad (scared) to actually interact with their lane opponent. So they stand back and spam Q every 3 seconds

This is anyone who is new to a playstyle, whereas practiced Liss top lanes are anything but uninteractive. They'll force fights left and right and bait you into your death. Also mate, did you not see this.

It's mostly a buff request for midlane because she's pretty outclassed by other mages there.

Jax Cramer1 votes

No...practiced Liss toplaners press rightclick and Q on me whenever I try to lasthit some minions and if I engage on her I get snared and eat full creep damage since I cant push the wave as hard as she can.

Braindead champ for bad toplaners who don't know anything about lane matchups or laning mechanics so they pick an easy, forgiving champion. I don't even have to look at your profile to know she is probably the only toplaner you play. No real toplane main mains Lissandra.

BTW I agree she is pretty bad right now but I hope she stays that way.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Just destroyed a Liss Top with J4 your argument is invalid.

Jax Cramer1 votes

Personal anecdotes from your low elo arguments don't mean anything.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Exactly.

And extremely baised arguments coming from a salty top laner who loses to matchups that counter him don't mean anything either.

Newsflash, you aren't meant to win every matchup. Even I as a "low elo" understand this.

Doseqis1 votes

Lissandra is completely fine right now a good lissandra can destroy whole teams while newer ones who don't even know her playstyle lose most games

Catastrop1 votes

I know that, I've done my fair share of team destroying myself, but is an extra 25 base damage for the laning phase really going to push her over the edge?

Doseqis1 votes

It would probably do just that, but not in mid lane like you want. Lissandra will still have the problem of being outranged and forced to just farm and push with Q mid lane adding more base damage to it only makes her top lane more oppressive.

The nature of her kit only keeps him in an average spot mid lane since her range is pretty low on W and somewhat Q

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