This gives a practical use for the champion mastery.
And this prevents players from "practicing" champions in ranked games, potentially at the expense of 4 other people.
Deep Terror Nami11 votesWhat about all the people who are experienced but haven't played enough since the Mastery system came out? I only have one champion at Rank 4, but there is absolutely no reason for me to not play Ranked.
Also, you'd have to get 16 champions leveled up, because you need to have that many champions available to play ranked. Do you have 16 champions at Mastery 4?
3tyson2 votesYes
Rueian2 votesThere is nothing wrong with this idea actually. It is much better than having 0 restrictions other than 'own x champion' have you played smite? Smite has the exact same system in place. You need mastery 1 in a god before you can play it in 'league' matches which is anywhere from 5-10 games.
Deep Terror Nami4 votesThere is a lot wrong with the idea, and I already stated it. If the Mastery system always existed, or is they gave you Mastery points retroactively for past games, then it wouldn't be. But that isn't the case. It would be forcing experienced players to play a shit ton of games to get back into Ranked no matter how much they played before.
Like I said, I am not a noob at Ranked that there should be anything keeping me out of it, but this would lock me out.
Rueian2 voteslet me put it this way, what if they implemented the mastery restriction in season 6? Obviously doing so mid season is a bad idea, but the idea as a whole is great.
Deep Terror Nami5 votesStill no. While that's not nearly as bad, I don't particularly like it.
For example, I have a guy on my friends list who only plays Jinx. Like, literally nothing else unless he's forced out of it. But he is Plat 3. He is far and away ineligible for Ranked according to your idea. Why would he deserve to be locked out of Ranked just because he mains Jinx and doesn't play a lot of other champions? It's nonsense. Brand new Bronze V's will have met the requirement by the time they hit 30 while he won't.
I want you to count up how many matches on average it takes to meet a level 4 mastery on 16 champions. A lot of people don't play that much at all yet are perfectly capable of competitive ranked play.
Rueian2 votesI never said it had to be rank 4. The point is to make it so people dont just run into ranked and do "First time X"
And as far as i'm concerned, 1 trick ponies shouldn't be in ranked. You need champion diversity not only for if your champion gets banned but so if you are forced into a roll you dont normally play you can still function.
Absolute0Chaos1 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Bci1bMuu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-08T17:21:55.811+0000) Also, you'd have to get 16 champions leveled up, because you need to have that many champions available to play ranked. Do you have 16 champions at Mastery 4?
That's not what I've said.
Deep Terror Nami4 votesI know you didn't say that. It would be a necessary requirement if the rest of your idea was implemented. Did you even think about why I said what I did?
You need 16 champions owned to play ranked.
How could they require you to have a certain mastery level for anything less than that? They couldn't. The 16 champ requirement is so that you can't possible get everything you owned picked and banned away. If you had only 10 champions with the needed Mastery, but they all got picked/banned away, you couldn't play now could you?
Absolute0Chaos1 votesI understand why you would say that but I don't see that as a big of a problem as you would say.
The way I can see it happen is if all your ranked 4/5's get picked/banned, you'd get kicked out of the queue and it will be treated as if you dodged. This is to discourage people from even attempting ranked until they have a healthy amount of masteries. Which really addresses the second point in my original post.
Another option is to make it like ARAM, where the summoner with the less masteries get priority pick. I don't like this method obviously, but it is an option.
Granted, this won't be a problem if Rito just introduces a ranked TB or blind. Which I didn't mention cause I wanted to save it for another topic but I guess I should've. And ranked TB I believe is coming anyway.
If worse comes to worst, make Rank 5 equal to 2 Rank 4's, or make Rank 3 the new Rank 4.
There's lots of workarounds.
I see people won't like this because it sets the bar for playing ranked even higher than it was, but in the long run, it should make for healthier games.
Deep Terror Nami3 votesReally? Instead of following the Ranked requirement of having 16 eligible champions for you to queue in the first place, it just forces you to dodge?
Your idea has a huge hole in it. You don't need to keep defending it like it's fine...
Absolute0Chaos1 votesThis wouldn't be such a problem if people actually try their best in ranked. But nope, the world is not perfect.
In any case, you don't have to agree with me.
Deep Terror Nami3 votesOf course I don't have to agree with you. Almost nobody does.
But the problem here was never about people trying their best. This was never part of the discussion. The discussion was about people's game knowledge.
Absolute0Chaos1 votesGame knowledge?
We're not talking about the same thing here then.
Deep Terror Nami3 votesAre you still upset that nobody agrees with you? We are talking about knowledge. Why else would you require them to have played multiple games on a variety of champions? So they don't troll? Obviously not, because that has nothing to do with trolling or if they "try their best in ranked" (those are your words).
Why so salty? If nobody likes your idea, maybe you should rethink it.
Absolute0Chaos1 votesI think the salty and the one upset here is you, to be honest...
Deep Terror Nami3 votesYou're at -13 votes now
:3
Absolute0Chaos1 votesThough realistically, average people agreeing/disagreeing won't have much impact.
If a Rioter steps in however...
3tyson3 votesI have a lvl 4 vi you do not want me playing vi in your ranked game trust me
than i have a lvl 2 cho but hes alrighty
Rueian2 votesI like this idea, because it is similar to the mastery system in smite.
Lugg2 votesThey just need to make it where you have at least played 25 games on that champion, then you can play that champ in ranked.
Absolute0Chaos1 votesNot in disagreement with this.
Though that's kind of like saying you need to reach rank 2 or 3.
