Will be Fizz and Vayne ever nerfed?

undEAdbUs·12/16/2014, 10:34:03 AM·3 votes·1,291 views

Their mobility, abilities to avoid gapclose champions and their damage making them killing machines. Yeah they both have pretty high skill cap, but when they're in right hands, they're unstoppable.

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Leti the Yeti12/16/2014, 10:37:18 AM2 votes

I dont think Riot has ever had an issue with "unstoppable in the right hands" champions

However Fizz is pretty unstoppable when used b an idiot too, I pretty much wrecked my laner on my first Fizz game, that took no mechanics

Cale01712/16/2014, 10:44:37 AM2 votes

When they aren't easy to shut down in the early game, sure.

As it stands, Fizz's early game is utter crap, and unless he absolutely steamrolls through the mid game, his late game is pretty meh overall unless your team spreads out and lets him pick people off.

Vayne with the right support can be a bit of an oppressive lane, but even then early on she can be locked down and taken out without much of an issue by anyone who can outrange her. Particularly if you take a Thresh or a Blitz who are damn good with their pulls. You never see Vaynes with passive supports because without someone to zone the enemy and let her farm with relative impunity, she doesn't hold up well enough in the early game to do anything without relying on misplays from her opponent.

FyshinaTux12/16/2014, 10:37:16 AM1 votes

Yea... Because they're the ones that need nerfs... People just need to learn CDs and learn how to play around them.

If Fizz jumps in on you early, that's a nice 12 second CD (iirc) that costs 1/3 of his mana. Abuse. That. $*(^.

With Vayne, she has one of the shortest attack ranges in the game, you can abuse that early too (Pro Tip: Don't take a baby-sit support against Vayne).

ZeroAnarchy12/16/2014, 11:15:09 AM1 votes

And then you realize they both have crap early games.