The biggest nerf to Kalista

Kaisa is Hot··4 votes·490 views

Was dedinately the Runaans change. They made the passive deal a lot less damage ompared to what it use to be. They added crit chance, which she doesn't really use a whole lot like other ADC's.

Runaans is an item that shouls be staple on few ADC's. Not every single god damn one.

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Trap or a Trick2 votes

Corki Ezreal Draven Jhin Vayne Urgot Lucian every single one?

MohawkBird1 votes

Seriously, why is Urgot there. He's not even an ADC since everything about his kit really puts him to being a ranged AD fighter/bruiser. What ADC would want to put themselves in the enemy team with an ult?

Trap or a Trick2 votes

dosent change my point, if I ever see you buying runnans on ezreal or jhin ill report your ass lmfao

hallfro1 votes

Name checks out.

khorney1 votes

Urgot was designed into the game as a adc who counters adcs.

MohawkBird1 votes

His kit plays very little like an actual ADC though. He can counter ADCs sure, but as far as being one I'll have to disagree.

khorney1 votes

Draven can use it because it's like cait's passive. It procs the bonus damage off his q. Luc can use it and was a thing. Urgot can use it for reasons on making his passive affect everyone and building him like a adc instead of casting

Faie1 votes

Cait doesn't proc the bonus damage from her passive on the Runaan's bolts. It just stacks up her passive faster. Draven also does not do bonus damage on his Runaan's bolts.

khorney1 votes

actually she does since her passive is a onhit effect and draven does since hsi q is a on hit effect

Faie1 votes

You can test it if you'd like. They're not on-hit effects. They are modifiers to the next auto attack, and since Runaan's bolts aren't auto attacks, they aren't modified.

Again, you can test this in a custom game if you don't believe me, but just for the record I've played multiple thousands of games on ADC's so I'd like to think I know a very basic game mechanic about them.

khorney1 votes

i did and it does .

Faie1 votes

So because I had nothing better to do, and because I'm in the mood to argue, I'll show you just how wrong you are.

This is an auto attack with my passive, as you can see it deals 206 damage to the main target and each Runaan's bolt deals 39 damage. http://puu.sh/tcjy1/413f87a6c4.jpg

And this is an auto attack without my passive, it deals 95 damage to the main target and 39 damage from each Runaan's bolt. http://puu.sh/tcjA2/6fc8c4acd5.jpg

You're wrong, ok?

khorney1 votes

let me guess you didnt get rage blade shocking

Faie1 votes

Rageblade on Cait and Draven? http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/993/875/084.png

P.S. Rageblade would still not make these attack modifiers apply on Runaan's bolts.

khorney1 votes

they actually do but okay

Faie1 votes

I showed you in this post that they don't.

This is an auto attack with my passive, as you can see it deals 206 damage to the main target and each Runaan's bolt deals 39 damage. http://puu.sh/tcjy1/413f87a6c4.jpg

And this is an auto attack without my passive, it deals 95 damage to the main target and 39 damage from each Runaan's bolt. http://puu.sh/tcjA2/6fc8c4acd5.jpg

Why would rageblade change this? The rageblade damage would apply onto the hurricane bolts though.

khorney1 votes

rage blade makes her passive apply the effects to bolts. i happen to have 6 stacks 1 time and literally 1 shotted there adc who was at full off my net, the passive double stirked

Kaisa is Hot1 votes

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Corki Ezreal Draven Jhin Vayne Urgot Lucian every single one?

Pretty much all the popular adc's build runaans atm. Twitch, Jinx, Caitlyn. Cuz you are almost garenteed to see one of these 3 in every game.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

+1 because ur name

Variks the Loyal1 votes

I'd argue it's not staple on every ADC, just ones with unique or special on-hit effects that benefit from multiple hits Twitch Varus Caitlyn Jinx Kalista Ashe . It helps that a lot of these champs are meta right now.

Other Marksman would do better with Shiv or PD.

TheLastShadow451 votes

He said not every adc.

Kaisa is Hot1 votes

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I'd argue it's not staple on every ADC, just ones with unique or special on-hit effects that benefit from multiple hits Twitch Varus Caitlyn Jinx Kalista Ashe . It helps that a lot of these champs are meta right now.

Other Marksman would do better with Shiv or PD.

Jinx and Cait should not synergize with Runaans. It breaks their kits in different ways. For Jinx it gives her MASSIVE Aoe damage with her rockets which literally garentees that she gets fed every single game. Caitlyn it's how her passive counts Runaans bolts as auto attacks procing her Headshot WAY too often for how powerful it is with Crit and Lifesteal...

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