Unless you are dealing with vayne then the only real counter is to hope you can CC her to hell or blow her up with someone like a LeBlanc or zed before said vayne can kill you.
In other words burst assassins were the thing keeping vayne in check.
So which do you hate more, vayne or Prenerf LeBlanc?
OperationDEEZ119 votes
I still hate her more.
Remlap12233 votesDespite the whines about Vayne, she still is extremely easy to shut down early game. LeBullshit was at the top of her game at the start because once she hit level 2 she could 100/0 squishy targets. Level 3 she could do that to anyone. And despite all that she has a root and a disgusting amount of mobility. I have zero clue why I was the only one who hated LeBlanc before her silence was removed.
M Schumacher6 voteslol implying vayne can't 1v1 zed
Ormylar6 votesVayne is described as a ranged dps assassin. Therefore, fighting her 1v1 will be really tough if she's fed because she's a duelist like Jax. And to those of you saying Vayne doesn't get countered by armour, well she does because even though her W is true damage, the main source of her damage is her AUTO ATTACKS. Meaning physical damage, meaning AD. Armour will still reduce the amount of damage she does to you regardless.
You know who really benefits from having a lot of armour AND can slow attackspeed?
I'm not saying this is the only option but I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else suggest him yet.
Just food for thought.
Remlap12232 votes
Did someone say lots of armor and an attack speed slow?
KONO RUBICK DA1 votes isn't an argument since he counters every hard carry based on AA, but counter less vayne since she has her W which will deal more damage since every hyper carry to nasus
KONO RUBICK DA3 votes counters more 
since he has armor and those champions are based on AA.
but he counters less vayne since she can damage him hard even if he has armor
Ormylar1 votes
but he counters less vayne since she can damage him hard even if he has armor
I'm not understanding your response to my post. I was talking about Vayne, not the other adcs. smh
KONO RUBICK DA1 votesi was telling you that malphite counters more Every hyper carries than vayne which is unfair
Ormylar1 votesi was telling you that malphite counters more Every hyper carries than vayne which is unfair
Lol I could reverse that logic and say that most adcs can't be countered by pink wards, only Vayne (and Twitch). That seems pretty unfair, right?
I don't mean to get too off topic with this but if every adc could be countered the exact same way, it would make the game a bit more boring and we would be seeing more generic builds and less variety.
KONO RUBICK DA3 votespink wards are meant to counter every stealth character, i don't see the unfairness
malphite was meant to counter every AA reliant champions except that vayne is less countered by malphite since she has %hp true damage
also, AA->tumble reseting AA+condemn =1 proc of SB which is also unfair because she can defend herself against Attack speed slow
Legalisskull1 votesYeah, but by the same logic a super armor heavy tank like Malphite can be countered by a champion like Vayne.... I mean the argument "X counters Y1 but doesn't really counter Y2 because Y2 can counter X" is a redundancy. There are meant to be counters to variables that typically counter those variables in the same family. If that wasn't the case your play style/pick diversity would drop like a rock as well as certain things in the game being completely broken and unfair.
TDLR: There are counters to Vayne just as there are things Vayne counters. Deal with it.
B1naryB0t1 votes
Troy2426211 votesVayne is described as a ranged dps assassin. Therefore, fighting her 1v1 will be really tough if she's fed because she's a duelist like Jax. And to those of you saying Vayne doesn't get countered by armour, well she does because even though her W is true damage, the main source of her damage is her AUTO ATTACKS. Meaning physical damage, meaning AD. Armour will still reduce the amount of damage she does to you regardless.
You know who really benefits from having a lot of armour AND can slow attackspeed?
I'm not saying this is the only option but I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else suggest him yet.
Just food for thought.
Counterpicks aren't sufficient counterplay, Riot has said this and any reasonable person understands why. You don't always pick after Vayne, he doesn't fit well into every team comp and he himself has bad match-ups. Finally, he can be banned.
Vayne's counterplay is slim pickings, particularly compared to other ADCs.
ChaosThief5 votesBe glad you don't see vaynes go 
Mr Broken Wings3 votesLeblanc is hated more because of the fact that her laning is not fun to play against. Thats the only reason why people hate leblanc even if she has 30% winrate. Vayne is stronger right now, but people dont feel like she is SUCH a big problem like pre nerf leblanc because they dont instalose the lane to vayne. Just simple silver hivemind.
Byakuya Kuchiki2 votesno the counter to %health true damage is not letting her attack whoever she wants whenever she wants. draven can burst people faster and he has no way to deal with tanks but they still get melted by his raw amount of damage
bad manner kid2 votesEveryone jumped on the LB bandwagon after last seasons LCS. Any assassin with mobility and items will blow people up and make them mad.
People tend to complain about Vayne, but it doesn't take over 10 pages of the balance threads for weeks. Being a 6000 HP tank with 300 armor and dying in 2 rotations of vaynes silver bolts tho, balanced.
Lugg2 votesAs bad as Vayne is, pre-nerf LB was a thousand times worse.
ApexInTheCircle2 votesI just played a really good game as 
and lost to a fed 
, I would go in on her plant a vision ward, she would just push me away before I could get her. As it stands you really can't assassinate a vayne if she doesn't want you to.
gl0hs0zgf1 votesJust means you didn't have enough damage. Violence solves everything!
Lightningfst2 votes - way more toxic prenerf. No real chance for counterplay.
is strong, but not unbeatable. Get CC and use 
ChaosThief2 votesor 
BlkStar1002 votesYep , so many people hating Vayne for her W . Want to counter her easily , hard sticky CC support with exhaust or assasin burst type mid or jungle .
NemeBro1 votesI've always been fine with LeBlanc.
Fuck LeBlanc. She can fight me in real life. I'm not scared of her.
Kuroi861 votesThe counter to true damage is building health
Unless you are dealing with vayne then the only real counter is to hope you can CC her to hell or blow her up with someone like a LeBlanc or zed before said vayne can kill you.
Vayne is a tank killer, so with the remnants of the tank meta slowly drifting off, it isn't surprising that she is still slightly popular.
Icestar11861 votesTanks are still a thing. It's just that everything else is too.
Llanite1 votesWe'll see her popularity drop once the shitty tank meta is gone and assassins come back.
Fluppets8 votesuhm... the tank meta is already gone. assasins are already back...
Saixos2 votesThat's kind of the reason Vayne is rising in popularity, one of the few ADCs who can 1v1 some assassins thanks to invis and condemn.
Partholonian1 votesShe can 1v1 some assassins, but she can 1v1 nearly all tanks. So a shift from tanks to assassins makes her slightly weaker.
I feel like if it's OK for an ADC to be a strong duelist, then her weak point ought to be lower teamfight presence compared to someone who can be part of a team shredding wombo combo (MF, Twitch, maybe Lucian), have mage-like poke (Kog, Corki), or contribute strong team utility (Ashe, Sivir, Varus).
Or other ADCs could just tear up towers really damn fast (Tristana, Jinx).
And it's certainly true that Vayne doesn't really do any of those things -- her entire kit is single target and she's discouraged from buying Runaan's (because it doesn't work with her W) and Shiv (because the high power of her W rewards AS more than crit).
But neither do her opponents if she's already killed them.
Fluppets1 votesThe counter to true damage is kill them (Vayne, incoming Fiora) before they kill you.
Vistha Kai1 votesWhich prenerf LeBlanc?
Budupops1 votesvayne is freelos
ilt1 votesVayne players keeps Vayne in check. They fk themselves up trying to make plays.
Solidair31 votesThe counter to vayne is attack speed slows
Vicvictorw1 votes
ElJanitorFrank1 votesRead the title and immediately new exactly where you were going with it.
Just want to point out that building health will still help, event if they do %true damage. The more health you have the less damage her bolts do %wise because of the flat damage attached to them.
But honestly, it's only 1/3 of her auto attacks, so building armor is still going to help.
Don't get me wrong, I've thought Vayne's %true damage was bullshit since I knew it existed years ago, but this circlejerk is getting a little old.
And for the record, I still hate LeBlanc. And I remember Pre-nerf Pre-nerf LeBlanc, where she could silence you before deleting you in .3 seconds.
General Murica1 votesGood to see NA is still clueless. Outside this ElJan guy
DrProfVibeCheck1 votesAhem......
Troy2426211 votes[{quoted}](name=Sir Glitterfart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BEfVcfpW,comment-id=001b,timestamp=2015-07-27T00:11:32.782+0000)
Ahem......
JustMyBassCannon1 votesIs not actually enough Lifesteal to counter Thornmail unless your physical damage has 100% Armor Penetration.
The Whamboozler1 votesThe only counter to anything in this game is killing it before it can do whatever it was going to do that you needed to counter in the first place.
3TWarrior1 voteslol, how about gangplank then, against targets with 70 armor or less(the standard carry), he can deal true damage with his over 1k damage criticals on his barrels or still deal 700 true damage just from his own damage totals with the barrel (glass cannon critplank) with last whisper and youmuu's ghostblade
then there's everything else with varying amounts of damage depending upon the target, but gangplank's true damage is fairly close to chogath's now depending upon build and player skill and on a much lower cooldown of instant to 2 seconds
Taredom1 votesAs someone who greatly prefers tanky champs, I would rather see LB in most cases >.>
Zhugan1 votesVayne. 100%
I'd rather get blown up on occasion with a low chance to counterplay than be forced to bring at least 2 people to kill the one ADC because dueling Vayne is about as enjoyable as lighting my ass on fire with an oil soaked, jagged, rusty knife.
Assassins are annoying, but you can beat them in lane and make them way less effective as the game goes on cause you'll get resists before they get big. If the game goes long enough, Vayne always gets big. Percent max health true damage was a stupid mechanic four years ago and its still a stupid mechanic today.
Icestar11861 votesPrenerf Leblanc. Vayne you can react to.
Athenes Lulu1 votesTrying to catch a Vayne is still a lot easier than trying to catch a LB.
I'll forever hate LB more for how it's impossible to not get killed by her or catch her.
NewFoundAbility1 votesI didn't really read the post. All I had in my head after: ##'' The counter to true damage is building health ''
I was like: Go on?
(Even though I've never played Vayne.)
Kind of sucks that she has true damage. When she gets her BorK, you can't itemize other than Armour, I guess.
