Normally when I'd play Talon I would go first item 
into 
to shut him out. But now I can't QSS his ult, and if he gets a pink my ult is pretty much useless when he ults. Not sure how I can win this match up anymore.
Any ideas on what I can do as Talon vs Zed?
He outranges me and outdamages me early game so trying to outscale him or out farm him is just a battle of attrition that I'll lose regardless.
Very Hard Engage1 votesyou build more damage than him and you invis after he ults you.
the secret is to just not take too much poke before the all in happens.
ApexInTheCircle1 votesyou build more damage than him and you invis after he ults you.
the secret is to just not take too much poke before the all in happens.
It becomes nigh impossible when the Zed is smart and gets a pink ward.
IMO they should just allow his ult to be Qss'd like before, without it he will stay a top ban or pick for the rest of his existence until he is either Nerfed or reworked.
Very Hard Engage1 votesor or or... hear me out... 
that and hydra should sustain you somewhat and give you the edge in the auto wars. and give you extra burst over him. you just have to not be at half hp before the fight starts.
in addition you have better wave clear, you insta clear the wave and he has to choose between farm and harassing you, a much better situation for you.
zed wins pre 6. you win post 6. assuming even skill ofc or you haven't fed him.
Your third mom1 votes"We changed silver sash so it couldn't negate Zeds ult, so lets Remove Vision ward so talons ult wouldn't be useless" - Riot 2016
Blades Ends1 votesWith the nerfs to Zed's Q and W the early games is more even than you think. Take Armor and Armor Pen runes. Start with 
and 3 
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. Try not to get hit by zeds q, at lvl 3 wait for zed's shadow to die off and then go onto zed with e, aa, w,aa,q then walk out so he doesn't trade with you. and if he is in melee range then w ,aa, q , e, aa, then wait 2-3 sec then w again. at lvl 6 its all skill bit if zed got a pink then dont bother just roam bot and try to get a kill. Its not zed is op its that talons kit is out dated. and an assassin vs assassin lane is who ever gets the first kill will win the game 70% of the time. GL hope this helps
You generally want to ult as soon as he does, but if he has a pink ward, then just wait for ganks or roams. You need to take as much reduced damage as possible when you have his death mark on you, and by going invisible that is the way to go.
