Toplane still is a hollow shell of what it was pre 5.16.

Irelia Bot·Aug 22, 2018·3 votes·1,541 views

That patch changed top lane from usually being a skill match up to being normally decided by counter picks.

10 Comments

Immovable OzenAug 22, 20184 votes

Counter picks HAHHAHAHAHA just play Garen, you ARE THE COUNTER PICK [garen-swing] Spin to-- cheese to-- q to win Garen

Irelia BotAug 22, 20181 votes

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Counter picks HAHHAHAHAHA just play Garen, you ARE THE COUNTER PICK [garen-swing] Spin to-- cheese to-- q to win

5.16 is when garen became what he is.

Critmaster GarenAug 22, 20181 votes

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5.16 is when garen became what he is.

its hilarious that you would say that, because pre 5.16 garen was an actual lane bully.

2.5 second silence at rank 1, and his spin dealt actual damage before lvl 7.

Immovable OzenAug 22, 20181 votes

He has always been a decent pick but now he can zone very hard, if he gets even slight advantage he wins. He wins 90% of trades in top as well which is nice. He is meant to be easy to recover with if you make mistakes, so if you do fuck up just afk for 10 seconds for max hp again. He will most definitely see a nerf soon.

SalronAug 22, 20182 votes

top lane has always been THE lane of heavy counterpicking being a strong deciding factor

Immovable OzenAug 22, 20181 votes

even more so when the towers are basically just a giant rock that shoots little water guns. Towers Dives in top are insane rn, you can just eat the hits.

Frosted TipsAug 22, 20181 votes

Not as bad as season 3 playing 1 of 3 top laners DrMundo Renekton or Shyvana

Irelia BotAug 22, 20181 votes

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Not as bad as season 3 playing 1 of 3 top laners or

Season 2, the first half of season 4 and the first half of season 5 were really good times for this game. I would talk about season 1 but I joined right at the end of it during the Riven patch.

Frosted TipsAug 22, 20181 votes

But I do agree except for some insane late game scalers and split pushers it is so much based off of counter picking.