Can we please get a QSS upgrade for AP champs?

Somebody Love Me·9/8/2017, 8:08:09 PM·5 votes·614 views

With Malzahar being as cancer as he is, it's hard for mages to be relevant when they're forced to buy QSS. It's a waste of an item slot, especially because at lv 11, Malzahar ult is at a lower cd than QSS anyway. Late game, they have to sell it and be vulnerable once again.

ADCs and AD assassins can freely get QSS and upgrade it whenever they want because it fits with their build, but mages and AP assassins are basically fucked when Malz can press R, which for some reason has insane base damage once again.

21 Comments

Doodlzzz9/8/2017, 8:08:55 PM3 votes

i think banshee's veil is good enough

Hayaishi29/8/2017, 8:09:12 PM3 votes

Give us AP Zhonyas then. You already have Banshee's

Nut on my Butt9/8/2017, 10:15:32 PM3 votes

I would much prefer Cleanse working on suppression.

Fake Masks9/8/2017, 8:09:34 PM1 votes

"Can we please make Malzahar warwick and skarner literally useless?"

It's already bad enough that you can't focus the adc with QSS , what do you want me to do? ult the tank?

Khristophoros9/8/2017, 10:33:20 PM1 votes

If you have any interrupts it's not that hard to interrupt Malz when he ults you. There is a 0.25s cast time during which he's in a non-channeled casting animation* before his ult takes effect and the channel begins. During this short window you can begin activation of an ability to interrupt him. Even if his ult starts suppressing you before your ability completes casting it will still finish casting and hit him.

*Non-channeled abilities can't be interrupted, so if you start casting your interrupt during his initial windup it will still finish casting after his ult takes effect.

You might say it's not humanly possible to react in 0.25s but I'm not expecting you to do it based purely on reaction. You have to be expecting it.

Personally I think that's healthy counterplay. Counterplay should require a mix of prediction and reaction, not pure reaction. If everything was possible to react to without any prediction basically nobody would ever land anything and aggression would be punished too easily.

LoL Reboot9/9/2017, 11:13:34 AM1 votes

Insane base damage... Once again?


Old Suppression Pool Combo

(550 + 130% AP) + (6 + (1 per 100 AP))% Enemy Max HP

New Suppression Pool Combo

(325 + 110% AP) + (4 + (0.5 per 100 AP))% Enemy Max HP


Flat damage went down by approximately 28-36%

Tick Damage for pool went down by 35-40%

Depending on AP amount


Not sure if you can complain about the base damage considering this post was most likely the result of your Katarina game vs Malzahar

750 Base + (330% BAD) + (285% AP)