Can reworked Eve's charm cook time get shorter with each rank she puts in it?

Somebody Love Me·10/1/2017, 1:57:40 AM·47 votes·1,912 views

2.5 seconds is a little long late game, especially since champs can get bursted in half that time, and you don't even get an assist if the target dies during that 2.5 second window.

When the target gets marked, all they have to do is walk towards the tank and Eve immediately decides against going in. If the target is alone, they have 2.5 seconds to run away. If Eve comes within her detection radius, she could get one shot before the time even completes.

Could it maybe be 2.5/2.3/2/1.8/1.5 seconds?

40 Comments

Karn Bishop10/1/2017, 6:27:45 AM21 votes

I can deal with the stupid level of cook time on the ability, what i cannot deal with is grandma walker base movespeed nerf and a stealth radius so large that it makes marksmens egos look small.

GrievousFetus10/1/2017, 3:26:03 PM16 votes

Does anyone find it ironic that, as Riot continues to add more and more gates and delays to assassins (aka impairing their ability to assassinate people) champions like VI and Wukong who are traditionally off-tanks and fighters start getting built full damage and instagib people in 0.15-0.3 seconds? Riot spent so much time gimping the official assassins that it's now potentially better to play fighters full damage and exploit the fact they don't have any conditional gates to their power or annoying delays.

Penns10/1/2017, 9:58:59 AM3 votes

Well she can do it while invisible and other assassins have delays too.

get used to it and stop thinking about new "assassins" as actual assassins lul

PokladnicaZla10/1/2017, 7:57:49 PM3 votes

I would rather they reduce her detection radius from 900 to something lower to the standard 700 and increase her base MS a bit.

The charm is implanted perfectly IMO. Assassins with hard cc can be a real frustration,but making it delayed and having her victim time to react is really healthy.

invisiblecat110/1/2017, 6:34:06 PM2 votes

Considering it also gives you void staff MR shred for 4 seconds, I am going to have to say no

Doozku10/2/2017, 12:35:03 AM1 votes

Look at the bright side, at least your not Rengar with an uncontrollable mark that lasts for like 7 seconds and also alerts everyone nearby basically telling the whole enemy team to group up and stopping you from doing anything hehe [sg-janna]

zaire9010/2/2017, 3:59:09 AM1 votes

Based off of all the other ap assassins that dont get that benefit of reducing the timers to help them out as the game goes on I doubt theyll do it for her

Cunky10/1/2017, 6:21:38 AM1 votes

This is a good idea. Bump.

Acheron1610/2/2017, 12:57:00 PM1 votes

I don't see the issue. Her charm is supposed to be a reward for waiting for the opportune moment to strike, not an "on the fly" CC effect.

You are supposed to be stealthed, skirting the sides of the enemy, tag your target and put them on the defensive as your team engages and THEN strike if they ignore your mark. It has such a long range for a reason and even if you don't proc the charm, the slow and damage is more than enough for you to E in, Q 2 or 3 times and R out if needed.

Her charm is IMO the most well designed part of her kit, MAYBE it could get a 0.5 second buff on the delay, but it should stay there, otherwise she would be release Evelynn, with a stun from stealth.

ModAcademy Kayn10/1/2017, 8:21:53 AM1 votes

It's likely something meant for the early game, when her burst isn't high and her rotation isn't as fast. Late game I'm guessing is going in and popping your damage as fast as you can, not waiting for it to pop. You're probably more apt to need the damage for a 1 on 1 fight regardless, if you're playing squishy, than the CC.

Escheton10/1/2017, 6:37:36 PM1 votes

Lategame she is a splitpush god with an easy escape and ability to just sit on a green ward in a bush to wait till the wave is pushed to just continue.

Ahris10/1/2017, 8:05:59 PM1 votes

Evelyn's Q has 1.8 ap ratio + around 350 base damage. The ap ratio alone is as strong as (really close to q + w + e + r(one cast)) Ahri's entire kits burst.

I don't think you can say her burst is medicore.

AmazoX10/1/2017, 8:42:46 PM1 votes

Fuck no.[sg-shisa]