why does riot nerf juggs so lightly

5 Stacks GG·Sep 16, 2015·4 votes·566 views

We REAL Darius player WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY HIM IN RANKED AGAIN!!!

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9 Comments

ShonjlSep 16, 20153 votes

If anything, the only thing I see Darius needing nerfed would be his Q. His insane AD steriod isn't so much the issue as his Q being able to heal him for massive chunks repeatedly and having a low cooldown. Due to how Darius naturally is tanky and always builds tank after 1-2 damage items. He can usually get off several Q's. That in itself means you basically have to kill a like 150%-200% hp Darius due to the regen. At least his steriod can be ignored through CC or he can die before he does much if he didn't heal for a third of his hp every Q in a teamfight.

5 Stacks GGSep 16, 20151 votes

Ya, I would like them to either revert his heal back to 10% or do the flat+less %missing like they said they might do.

Ra1dSep 16, 20151 votes

I feel the same with garen. I cant remember the last time i was able to take him to ranked.

ShonjlSep 16, 20151 votes

You mean before he got juggernaut buff? Idk who in their right mind would have banned him before it when you had 30+ champs more threatening than him.

Critmaster GarenSep 16, 20151 votes

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I feel the same with garen. I cant remember the last time i was able to take him to ranked.

doesnt make a difference really.

could you pick pre rework garen in ranked most of the time? nope. same for darius. at least now they actually have an impact when you can pick them.

Ra1dSep 16, 20151 votes

I did pretty well with pre rework garen. My current stats on him were from that era. I didnt win every match but at least i had the opportunity to rither carry or. Protect my team longenoigh to get into late game. He wasnt as impactful late but i enjoyed myself more being able to take him whenever. Now i resort to trundle or jaxwhen i go top lane

disregardableSep 16, 20151 votes

Actually, the patch rundown kind of explains that. They want the juggernauts viable in competitve play, and even in 5.16 they weren't seen a lot because comps with like Kalista, Ashe, or Alistar can just kite them all day.

Normally I'm not a fan of these patch rundowns, but this one was really insightful.

ReshiKillimSep 16, 20151 votes

And people ignore the fact that Jayce can hard counter Darius.. But he has to be banned because he's a juggernaut.

10/10 Best sense.

LoLKiruSep 16, 20151 votes

They probably don't want to risk overnerfing them (truthfully, they could just hand out a larger nerf; and then buff over time if needed; either way works really, basically the reverse of what they're doing now)

Not saying thats the right course of action to take, but thats probably the mentality behind it.

Darius' was actually nerfed pretty significantly though, just not in the right place (+20 mana cost on a skill you max first and use constantly, is a pretty big hit); They'll probably end up having to do what Meddler thought they might, turn the heal into a flat heal + % missing health (a significantly lower % missing health at that)

How much did Garen's nerf affect him anyway (I assume 5.18 is live now; haven't gotten to play yet because I just got home)?

All that said, i'll be surprised if we see many juggernaut picks; if any in Worlds, given how easily a coordinated team can deal with them.