All these new champions are OP af how df is Riot even balancing anything?

4NoxiousHours··10 votes·1,717 views

Lets make a champion Gnar who has Utility and a mobility that can escape pretty far when it's about to die or knows when to die not only that, he can kite well with his Q which we can also give him a movement speed/attack speed boost and then when he turns huge, lets make him have an insane utility where he have a mini mobility to escape and have his Q to slow and a W to stun :D OH WAIT lets add more! lets also have him push people to the wall and stun them heavily. This is the best Idea ever!

Lets make an ADC champion Kalista who can benefit so much with attack speed due to her passive. We'll make her have the power to jump around extremely fast and melt turrets within 3-4 shots! Also for our players won't find her too OP we will make her ult only useful if a support is around. This is such a good idea!

Lets make a mid champion Azir who can lane bully the hell out of other mages but wait other champions Syndra Cassiopeia can lane bully as well so it wont seem unique... hmm.. thats alright lets make his kit able to kill you quickly even if you're under the turret omg yea such an awesome idea! we'll even reduce the movement speed to make it harder for the other mages to run away! and whenever Azir is endangered we can add an ult where it pushes the enemy away! That way Azir will have time to have his second escape where he will dash 1,000 feet away. Omg best concept ever!

Alright guys! time to make another super awesome champion Idea with unique CC/utility!RekSai this will be fun! This champion will have the power to dominate and to knock up champions also be able to 1 vs 3 people at once. We'll make him have a spell where he can dash extremely quick through tunnels to catch the enemy and knock them up! and then we'll give him an ult that's global to ensure he can scare laners and secretly get dragon. But wait... don't we already have champions who can do globalNocturne AND knocks upYasuo ? You're right! Alright we'll still keep the idea and make him have the ability to sensor the enemy's movements from a huge distance that way it will be fun for the team to steal and to find stealth champions! Twitch

Sir! our new champions that we've came up with have a huge percentage of ban rates! What do we do!? lets nerf them a tiny bit to make people think they are nerf'd dont worry about it.

Sir! the fake nerf didn't take affect they are banned quite a lot! That's alright billy numbers don't matter anyways let's move on and talk about our next insane CC/utlity/high steroid coming up champion!

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DJ Siamak8 votes

To be fair Kalista isn't really OP but her design is cancer and should never be buffed.

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How is rek'sai 3v1'ing anyone? She's arguably the most balanced of all the new champions that you listed.

Christ you guys are silly.

Rek'Sai's super overtuned but she's gonna be garbage after her nerfs since her kit isn't really that good on its own.

manbearswine1 votes

+∞

edit: since you've edited your post about reksai(which i do agree her kit doesn't seem amazing),just want to point out I'm mostly here for the kalista hate.

fuck that retarded abomination,I hope it never gets buffed.

Bears Dont Care6 votes

How is rek'sai 3v1'ing anyone? She's arguably the most balanced of all the new champions that you listed.

Christ you guys are silly.

manbearswine1 votes

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How is rek'sai 3v1'ing anyone? She's arguably the most balanced of all the new champions that you listed.

Christ you guys are silly.

Kit wise,maybe.(I still wanna see what people can make out of her ult when mastered)

her numbers are waaaaaaaay off though.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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Kit wise,maybe.(I still wanna see what people can make out of her ult when mastered)

Her ult is not amazing, seriously. There is no mastering at all

her numbers are waaaaaaaay off though.

Um...not really.

Q has an AD ratio of 1.2, guess who also has a ratio of 1.2?Pantheon Her E? Fully ranked is 120% of her AD. 240% for her true damage, and has a lot of build up W? 50% of BONUS AD

Her numbers have never been a problem, people are stupid, and immediately complain about anything new to them.

manbearswine1 votes

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Her ult is not amazing, seriously. There is no mastering at all

It has quite a lot of potential with backdooring,which is pretty damn gay,tunnels are destructible but I still want to see what players who get a chance to practice her a lot are capable of.

Um...not really.

Q has an AD ratio of 1.2, guess who also has a ratio of 1.2?Pantheon Her E? Fully ranked is 120% of her AD. 240% for her true damage, and has a lot of build up W? 50% of BONUS AD

Her numbers have never been a problem, people are stupid, and immediately complain about anything new to them.

Look at her banrate,look at her winrate(I generally don't care for that,but as a rule of thumb when a champion is just released and has the highest winrate...well..........................),I don't even feel like reading her kit,I've seen her in game,her damage output is just ridiculous.

I really don't feel like arguing over this,it's basically common knowledge reksai is op at this point.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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It has quite a lot of potential with backdooring,which is pretty damn gay,tunnels are destructible but I still want to see what players who get a chance to practice her a lot are capable of.

Okay, let us be honest, who would allow Rek'sai to backdoor you? Her tunnels are viewable as soon as you find them, and if she tries to backdoor, then your team seriously screwe up for not destroying the tunnel as soon as you found it.

Look at her banrate,

New champions typically have very high banrates because they are new. Look at Gnar, or Kallista, very high ban rates initially.

Let alone that people go off first appearances. So if rek'sai dominates, they think she is god like, if she dies a lot, they think she sucks.

look at her winrate(I generally don't care for that,but as a rule of thumb when a champion is just released and has the highest winrate...well..........................),

Hrmm... I guess with limited da ta...you are able to more easily skew the data and suggest very high win rate or very low winrates. Mayhap...more data is needed instead of going off a very limited time frame? 100+ champions to pick in the game, sorry but Rek'sai won't magically break statistis.

I don't even feel like reading her kit,I've seen her in game,her damage output is just ridiculous

Wait wait wait, so you never read her kit, you never read her numbers, but you FEEL her damage output is ridiculous?

I really don't feel like arguing over this,it's basically common knowledge reksai is op at this point.

No it isn't common knowledge, it's retarded knowledge. You said it yourself, you never looked at her kit or its numbers, you're just saying its ridiculous for the sake of doing so, not because it actually is very high.

Here, let me drop some numbers on you.

Queen's wrath = Physical Damage: 15 / 35 / 55 / 75 / 95 (+ 40% Bonus AD) Total Damage: 45 / 105 / 165 / 225 / 285 (+ 120% Bonus AD)

Lee sin's Q: Physical Damage: 50 / 80 / 110 / 140 / 170 (+ 90% bonus AD) (+ 8% target's missing health) Combined Damage: 100 / 160 / 220 / 280 / 340 (+ 180% bonus AD) (+ 8% target's missing health)

Unburrow: Physical Damage: 60 / 110 / 160 / 210 / 260 (+ 50% Bonus AD) 1 second CC duration based on distance.

Lee sin W? No damage.

Rek'sai bite: 120% AD/ 240%AD9full fury) Lee sin E:

Magic damage: 60 / 95 / 130 / 165 / 200 (+ 100% bonus AD)

Rek'sai Ult? 60% attack speed. Lee sin passive 40% attack speed per ability use. Lee sin ult: 200/400/600 + 200% ad

If we look at a Champion who is actually overpowered? Rek'sai turns out to be actually in line.

Hell if you look at Jarvan IV, and Pantheon, you find out her damage mathematically isn't out of bounds of any jungler, especially not Pantheon. But hey, what you've seen in game has to be accurate right? No one ever exaggerates what they see ever. We're all very objective and not quick to make judgements about new champions due to past releases.

I am also the King of the United States of America.

Rek'sai is fine. There is a possible bug between her Q and hydra (causing it to proc multiple times), but that's a bug, not a kit issue. Get over yourselves.

manbearswine1 votes

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Okay, let us be honest, who would allow Rek'sai to backdoor you? Her tunnels are viewable as soon as you find them, and if she tries to backdoor, then your team seriously screwe up for not destroying the tunnel as soon as you found it.

So the trick is put it a place it's unlikely to be found,at least not fast enough. you might be right and you might be wrong,I want to give it time and see what good rek'sai players will make out of her.

New champions typically have very high banrates because they are new. Look at Gnar, or Kallista, very high ban rates initially.

Yes but we are past that point now,she has earned her current banrate.

Let alone that people go off first appearances. So if rek'sai dominates, they think she is god like, if she dies a lot, they think she sucks.

Exactly,and she just dominated so much and so hard she earned her current banrate,whereas kalista lost hers.

look at her winrate(I generally don't care for that,but as a rule of thumb when a champion is just released and has the highest winrate...well..........................),

Hrmm... I guess with limited da ta...you are able to more easily skew the data and suggest very high win rate or very low winrates.

due to her popularity the sample size is more than large enough.

Mayhap...more data is needed instead of going off a very limited time frame?

no way in hell,with that popularity winrate becomes very stable,as you can see in her statistics it barely varies(http://www.lolking.net/champions/reksai&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics ),but steadily climbing in contrast to say heimer(http://www.lolking.net/champions/heimerdinger#statistics ) who has large noise due to low pickrate. her winrate is stable,and stands on the top,nothing more to it.

100+ champions to pick in the game, sorry but Rek'sai won't magically break statistis.

and yet she did,her popularity is large enough.

Wait wait wait, so you never read her kit, you never read her numbers, but you FEEL her damage output is ridiculous?

sigh this is as stupid as aruging with the rengars of old,there's nothing to it she's op enough it's fucking obvious.

No it isn't common knowledge, it's retarded knowledge.

someone has his head very deep up his ass,how do you breath in there?

Rek'sai is fine. There is a possible bug between her Q and hydra (causing it to proc multiple times), but that's a bug, not a kit issue. Get over yourselves.

that bug is a number,most people agree her kit is fine,she's just heavily overtuned.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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So the trick is put it a place it's unlikely to be found,at least not fast enough. you might be right and you might be wrong,I want to give it time and see what good rek'sai players will make out of her.

No...it is a fact. Let us consider the amount of area you can cover with wards. The are covered by minion vision. You can't back door with Rek'sai against a competent team. You'd use your ultimate for global pressure, to move from one lane to the next, not to back door because its very unsafe and easy to prevent.

Yes but we are past that point now,she has earned her current banrate.

Not really no. 1 month of game data during pre-season which is constantly in flux due to changes is not enough information. You must also consider there are over a hundred champions to pick, and it is easy to skew data. Really, take a statistics course. There really isn't enough data right now.

Exactly,and she just dominated so much and so hard she earned her current banrate,whereas kalista lost hers.

Erm...no. You see, the difference between Rek'sai and Kallista is that Rek'sai is an independent character who can push lanes really hard. She isn't reliant upon a second character, where as Kallista is, so there is no "earning". You're disregarding entirely the toolkit the two have, and what consititutes their bans and wins.

due to her popularity the sample size is more than large enough.

Um..no. You have no statistical data to suggest it. The most you can say is "I think that this is statistcally significant" But the data isn't accurate since 1 month isn't enough time. Not in a game as large as this one.

no way in hell,with that popularity winrate becomes very stable,as you can see in her statistics it barely varies(http://www.lolking.net/champions/reksai&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics ),but steadily climbing in contrast to say heimer(http://www.lolking.net/champions/heimerdinger#statistics ) who has large noise due to low pickrate. her winrate is stable,and stands on the top,nothing more to it.

Your data is fallacious. Your data considers ALL ranks.

When you look at higher ranks such as master +, her pick rate dives down to 6% and her win rate constantly fluctuates from day to day. On average, it's below 50% which is below tht of a champion such as Amumu and more popular picks like Lee sin.

Meanwhile, Champions such as Lee sin, jarvan IV, and others enjoy higher win rates and pick rates at the higher levels of paly.

Sorry, but bronzes,silver, gold don't counter.

and yet she did,her popularity is large enough.

You suggest that, but your own data suggests otherwise.

sigh this is as stupid as arguing with the rengars of old,there's nothing to it she's op enough it's fucking obvious.

I provided numbers and her kit, you have not. You simply said you FEEL she does a lot of damage. I illustrated mathematically she does not. Lee sin does more damage than she does.

Old rengar was a different story.

someone has his head very deep up his ass,how do you breath in there?

Why are you talking to yourself? Are you schizophrenic? Would explain a bt, all that synaptic pruning left you so demented you have no idea what you are talking about right now.

that bug is a number,most people agree her kit is fine,she's just heavily overtuned.

It's nice that people THINK its a number, but it really isn't.

In anycase, her ratio on her Q is being dumbed down to 90% total instead of 120%. So hey, guess she isn't horribly OP or they'd nerf her base damage too and her kit.

It just means they listen to band wagon idiots on GD who name themselves after South park characters.

f00G3MxfPP1 votes

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Her ult is not amazing, seriously. There is no mastering at all

Um...not really.

Q has an AD ratio of 1.2, guess who also has a ratio of 1.2?Pantheon Her E? Fully ranked is 120% of her AD. 240% for her true damage, and has a lot of build up W? 50% of BONUS AD

Her numbers have never been a problem, people are stupid, and immediately complain about anything new to them.

Her q is also resourceless and aoe... Furious bite at full fury is by far the most true damage on a champion ability (poor chogath).

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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Her q is also resourceless and aoe... Furious bite at full fury is by far the most true damage on a champion ability (poor chogath).

All her abilties are resourceless, thst is a bad argument. Riven also has a q with better base damage and ad ratio, it also procs a stronger aa.

As for her E. No. Darius hits harder and has a far quicker set up. Her E is hardly an issue when it takes over 5 seconds t build

Hello I am Bird1 votes

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Kit wise,maybe.(I still wanna see what people can make out of her ult when mastered)

her numbers are waaaaaaaay off though.

BlackRaven3 votes

notice how every single one of them counters melees. "season 5" guys!!!!!!!!

trexmixG3 votes

Kalista's not OP, Rek's not OP, Azir is strong, but not that bad....

of all the ones you listed, i'd say gnar is the only one that i really have a problem with....

Tabs2 votes

Yeah, I hate facing every single one of these champs, they have kits that allow to react to almost every single situation.

ModWuks2 votes

I enjoyed reading this. I've seen my fair share of Kalistas who were surprised they were able to kill the enemy adcs even when the Kalistas fell behind.

I wouldn't necessarily say some of the champions are OP though. Kalista? Maybe just a bit.

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I enjoyed reading this. I've seen my fair share of Kalistas who were surprised they were able to kill the enemy adcs even when the Kalistas fell behind.

I wouldn't necessarily say some of the champions are OP though. Kalista? Maybe just a bit.

The kalista part is so true lmfao I've seen it countless of times in Stream where you buy item 3085 on kalista and you start seeing her go merry around the turret that explodes within 2 shots or 3 lol

Bears Dont Care2 votes

Seems like it. They nerfed her Q and that's were most of her strength lay.

Embertine1 votes

Kalista isn't op at all. She's actually the easiest ADC to kill of all of them

RekSai can be countered easily by building item 3143 item 3110

Hardly anyone even plays Azir

I honestly don't see what the problem is here. RekSai is actually countered very easily by Shyvana Darius Riven

Kalista can be stunned to death easily by champions like Leona for example

And Azir just plain sucks as a champion.

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i find it funny how this thread goes up and down with the votes xD

DWT123451 votes

Azir is the most overrated champion in league nobody thinks Kalista is op

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