@Riot, Harvester of Sorrow Post 5.18

Malicious Metal··32 votes·2,927 views

Is this a Joke? Because it kinda feels like I should be laughing right now. This had to be the worst possible change you could have made to tweak Mordekaiser. But who am I to complain. I wasn't able to use Harvester of Sorrow anyways and in its current state I'd rather not have it at all. It's damage is pitiful and making it reliant on standing on top of your ally feels like getting dropkicked in the face with heavy boots of lead.

It's damage is pitiful and if you're trading this path I fear that the only part about Morde that won't get royally f*cked in the long run's going to be his Q, yes, the part that literally had nothing to do with Mordekaiser's identity.

But the worst part's it's animation. What in the name of Dio made you remove even MORE Metal out of Morde's abilities? Seriously? It's a ghost fart, and its damage matches the animation. It's as if Morde coats himself in confetti and heck you might even change his animations to party tricks since it does absolutely nothing! The damage wasn't that much of a problem but rather the goddamn passive attached to it.

Can't Mordekaiser get impactful abilities? Each one actually making you feel great about casting and putting points into them? hell, all his abilities feel so bad tight now. E does no damage Q only manages to maybe make me smirk a little when I hit the third AA W's utter BS, animation and ability-wise The passive feels so weak currently with the nerf to his shield gain and AoE damage. heck, it's barely viable to shrugg off some poke At least his ultimate still feels quite powerful even though the dragon's bloody foul to play against.

This just further strengthens my belief in Riot not being able to actually balance Morde and make him fun for Solo, Duo, Enemy, Ally and the Player alike. My hope crumbles with each passing day, seeing Morde getting treated like scrap Metal instead of actually helping him out! Now's the time so actually do something about it. Please....

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MealReadytoEat15 votes

But yea, they need to rename it "Sharecropper of Mild Disappointment" now.

Malicious Metal7 votes

Heck, they can rename Siphon of Destruction too while they're at it ^^'''

MealReadytoEat12 votes

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Heck, they can rename Siphon of Destruction too while they're at it ^^'''

"Funnel of Untidiness"

MrWasjig1 votes

+1 to both of your renames they gave me more of a laugh than I'm proud of xD

A Superb Villain12 votes

"After pushing Mordekaiser into botlane, we realized this was bad idea, but instead of fixing it we're just going to sweep him under the rug."

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agbudar4 votes

yea same old story

Jacknife5 votes

Sadly nothing but a Sion treatment can save him at this point. Hell, if he's as unbalancable as Riot claimed before, he needed a Sion treatment back then too. His old kit revolved around pub-stomping. if you're opponent was inept in the ways of metal, you could crush and outscale him, and if he knew anything about how Mordekaiser worked, then good luck staying alive as you get ganged up on time and again. Now his kit works like a pair of rigged dice, but it's only rigged if you play one type of game. If you use the die in that one game, you're almost sure to win, but use them in any other game and your handicapping yourself in the worst way. What Riot isn't realizing is that AS LONG AS ITS HEALTHY FOR THE GAME AND FITS HIS IDENTITY, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HIS KIT DOES. As long as he keeps the theme giant, Sauron-wannabe wraith of unholy metal, that can actually take a hit and FIGHT FOR HIS DAMN SELF, then it doesn't matter what abilities he has. But Riot, for some ungodly reason, thought it was a good idea to keep him in the limbo realm between bruiser and burst mage, who's only effective when he can make a squishy disappear in a cloud of smoke, with nothing else to fall back on. If they actually bothered to think ahead on how his kit can revolve around pulling off a 6v4 instead of hammering him into whatever meta shifting delusion they got going on, he might've come out as a really strong and awesome champion.

Vhalthoria4 votes

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Is this a Joke? Because it kinda feels like I should be laughing right now. This had to be the worst possible change you could have made to tweak Mordekaiser. But who am I to complain. I wasn't able to use Harvester of Sorrow anyways and in its current state I'd rather not have it at all. It's damage is pitiful and making it reliant on standing on top of your ally feels like getting dropkicked in the face with heavy boots of lead.

It's damage is pitiful and if you're trading this path I fear that the only part about Morde that won't get royally f*cked in the long run's going to be his Q, yes, the part that literally had nothing to do with Mordekaiser's identity.

But the worst part's it's animation. What in the name of Dio made you remove even MORE Metal out of Morde's abilities? Seriously? It's a ghost fart, and its damage matches the animation. It's as if Morde coats himself in confetti and heck you might even change his animations to party tricks since it does absolutely nothing! The damage wasn't that much of a problem but rather the goddamn passive attached to it.

Can't Mordekaiser get impactful abilities? Each one actually making you feel great about casting and putting points into them? hell, all his abilities feel so bad tight now. E does no damage Q only manages to maybe make me smirk a little when I hit the third AA W's utter BS, animation and ability-wise The passive feels so weak currently with the nerf to his shield gain and AoE damage. heck, it's barely viable to shrugg off some poke At least his ultimate still feels quite powerful even though the dragon's bloody foul to play against.

This just further strengthens my belief in Riot being able to actually balance Morde and make him fun for Solo, Duo, Enemy, Ally and the Player alike. My hope crumbles with each passing day, seeing Morde getting treated like scrap Metal instead of actually helping him out! Now's the time so actually do something about it. Please....

At this rate. I think they should just revert him back and start anew. No way they will make him work unless a Sion Level rework happens (Although it might just kill Morde as a champion we love) or as mentioned, revert him back to pre rework status and start anew.

Either way, I stopped caring a long time ago. Now I just play once a month and probably will just uninstall the game and move onto something else.

Malicious Metal5 votes

Well, he's fucked either way so I see a complete relaunch as the best course of action. He'll probably retain his shield and ultimate in some form and be reborn, reforged in an explosion of heavy metal goodness.

Vhalthoria7 votes

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Well, he's fucked either way so I see a complete relaunch as the best course of action. He'll probably retain his shield and ultimate in some form and be reborn, reforged in an explosion of heavy metal goodness.

Hopefully, as Morde is just dead in this version. Hard to like a champion after he is been butchered stat-wise in order to make him be a "carry". And that's the best joke of all. HE IS NOT EVEN A CARRY ANYMORE! more like a walking piece of shit lol.

I demand Riven be changed to support or Trynda a mage!

MealReadytoEat2 votes

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I demand Riven be changed to support or Trynda a mage!

Man, they "reverted" AP tryndamere, I liked that one (Not really, its was toxic as fuck). Never forget.

Keashqa5 votes

In my last couple of comments I called for a revert to all these terrible changes. All of them, including the new particle effects, etc.. Also, it almost seems like the designer who ruined Mordekaiser is trying to wait the complaints out with these small "fixes" (nerfs?). After spending so much time and energy to butcher Morde's kit and identity, there is no real effort being put into fixing him. Seriously, revert him completely as he was. Fuck this awful rework.

Robbit Mang4 votes

its all part of their plan to make suprise party mordekaiser

Goodnight Nunu3 votes

1337 Photoshop skills XD

Vhalthoria2 votes

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1337 Photoshop skills XD

QFT

Trebbi3 votes

You can jungle now with it and you have Warwick levels of sustain in the jungle and taxing minions is very worth.

Big Lincoln3 votes

give us old W back and all will be forgiven

I think his Q could use a slightly lower CD early, a slightly higher one late, and then a mild boost to his E's scaling to keep it from being overwhelming early but letting it feel stronger as you buy items.

I'd buff his passive to 30% shield gain, with less shield gen from minions and maybe like a second where it doesn't decay

EDIT: also they need to provide a massive rework to his power levels. right now he's a bot lane bully who tapers off late game, and he's a useless pile of shit in other lanes who.. tapers off late game. i thought he was supposed to be a carry?

Blue Moon Wolf3 votes

All for the Sion treatment. It's about time he got a VU and what better way to fix his kit than to Give him a full relaunch. Say goodbye to ghostly energy man with pizza feet and say hello to **Mordekaiser The Lord of Metal and King of the Shadow Isles **

http://apollo-na-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/1438121413/mordekaiser_by_hoasind-d92i0xb.jpg

YOU BEEN WARNED3 votes

Rito pls, solo lane Morde is unhappy and so is duo lane.

Wtf is this.

Mighty Kazin3 votes

You NEED sustain in lane for multiple reasons: to outlast the poke you'll be taking bot lane as well as keep you in lane long enough to hit 6 before your opponent, which was what they were pushing for in the beginning. But if you're being bullied out of lane so hard that even 5 pots can't keep you there (which just happened to me) and you can't cs and buy anything of worth, then it's pointless. Idk, I just want him viable. Idc what they do, just let him be playable. He's my favorite champ and I want to be able to play him again.

GigglesO3 votes

Forget man of steel, he is man of holy shit why isn't my hand being held, and why can't I do a thing alone.

Please change his lore. He was a bad ass that kicked ass and took names. Now he feels like a fluffy bunny.

I used to pride myself on being able to win any lane with morde... Now I lose everything that isn't duo bot or jungle.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

O bumpe do numero uno

Matezoide1 votes

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

Did they seriously remove even more metal out of his W?

Thats literally the only metal VFX/Related ability he has right now. What the fuck?

Can we please change his title already? Holy shit.

MrWasjig1 votes

He never had a healthy kit in the first place and with the Jugger rework nonsense they've only made it even harder to balance and an even unhealthier kit.

Mordekaiser was originally a broken vase that was held together with glue. He was never NOT a broken vase. But they've decided to knock the vase off the table and into a wood-chipper, shattering it into a million more pieces. Now Riot are trying to piece him back together again and they've no where near enough glue nor all the pieces. They'd be better off just binning all the pieces they have managed to find and just get a new vase.

Tortured analogy aside, Sion-Level relaunch is pretty much the ONLY way they'll make Morde balanced in any way, shape, or form without making him feast or famine like he's always been balance-wise.

TwitchInMyPants1 votes

Duo lane morde is the most toxic thing they've come up with and he's trash tier solo lane.

After being here for 5 seasons I'm confident this is pretty much the worst rework they've made. Besides permaroot Ryze ofc.

Akesgeroth1 votes

When I heard he'd been reworked, I got excited. I was very disappointed by the result. I wrote this a few months ago:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/OdfKWll8-lets-talk-about-mordekaiser

Still think it would be a good idea.

DragonShea1 votes

Just add Creeping death damage and it's fixed.

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