I dont play Liss often but I have played her even when she was strong.. AND SHE STILL HAD MANA problems.. and youre increasing the one spell she spams ? cmon now, thats just cruel haha.. almost 100 mana per Q.. jesus
Marshbouy2 voteswell she has been strong for a long time, it's good that she is getting nerfed. (im talking LCS here)
Catastrop1 votesThat's nice and all, but was this really the only way? She's subpar at best on soloq, this just makes waveclear heavy match ups a chore. I don't mind the health changes because we build RoA and use scaling HP seals anyway. It's just that hey could have increased the W mana cost, seriously, as a Liss main myself I've always thought this spells costed way too little for what it does. Hell maybe increase the travel time of Claw to 2 seconds instead of 1.5, to encourage timing your initiations much better.
Marshbouy1 votesLCS>soloQ
Treune811 votesTrue nerf I hope you understand value of her passive.
Rain NT1 votesthats what im saying, even when she was super strong and was the top pick in the meta, SHE STILL HAD MANA PROBLEMS D: that passive didnt solve her mana problems before. And now that shes balanced, they are going to nerf her mana problems even more? I'm legit sad even if I dont main her haha
Treune811 votesthats what im saying, even when she was super strong and was the top pick in the meta, SHE STILL HAD MANA PROBLEMS D: that passive didnt solve her mana problems before. And now that shes balanced, they are going to nerf her mana problems even more? I'm legit sad even if I dont main her haha
You admit.You could spam her q skill without thinking.Crazy waveclear without pain.
Rain NT1 votesyeah, not when you can only use it 10 times until your mana is completely gone. I said spammable because its on a low cd, doesnt mean she can actually spam it. #Manahungry
xBushx6 votesUM value...it has been one of the WORST passives in the game since release...
It doesn't provide ANYTHING when your mana costs are outrageous anyways.
THE ONLY thing I find this good for is when you blow everything in a combo and you wait a few seconds for that free spell to get the mana for her escape.
They need to give back the Ratios and bases on W if they are going through with this garbage. OR rework her passive.
Something like :
Ice Queen: 5% Damage received restored as Mana. When reduced below 20% Health OR Mana Lissandra Deals 5% more Damage. (Not exact numbers but interesting non the less, kinda like old Karma."Ice Queen" as a buff seems relentless in name too)
This would allow her High mana costs to be justifiable.
Treune811 votes[{quoted}](name=x Bush x,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Az6B1YiN,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2016-08-24T18:30:05.141+0000)
UM value...it has been one of the WORST passives in the game since release...
It doesn't provide ANYTHING when your mana costs are outrageous anyways.
THE ONLY thing I find this good for is when you blow everything in a combo and you wait a few seconds for that free spell to get the mana for her escape.
They need to give back the Ratios and bases on W if they are going through with this garbage. OR rework her passive.
Something like :
Ice Queen: 5% Damage received restored as Mana. When reduced below 20% Health OR Mana Lissandra Deals 5% more Damage. (Not exact numbers but interesting non the less, kinda like old Karma."Ice Queen" as a buff seems relentless in name too)
This would allow her High mana costs to be justifiable.
No way.Broken passive.
Veltox1 votesWhy?
xBushx1 votes50 bonus dmg on 1000...OP??
Are you thinking right??
Did you even read it. We get more %dmg multipliers in masteries and it's not like EVERYONE takes those so no not broken at all.
Also: A person who plays ONLY co-op vs AI (you) should not be counted on for relevant info.
Treune811 votes[{quoted}](name=x Bush x,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Az6B1YiN,comment-id=0000000100000001,timestamp=2016-08-24T18:54:19.432+0000)
50 bonus dmg on 1000...OP??
Are you thinking right??
Did you even read it. We get more %dmg multipliers in masteries and it's not like EVERYONE takes those so no not broken at all.
Also: A person who plays ONLY co-op vs AI (you) should not be counted on for relevant info.
5% Damage received restored as Mana.
The most broken thing.Broken passive.No way! You have 3 skills.Liss has 3 skills. (without ult) Her all skills have waveclear and poke.
xBushx1 voteslol...k
All of Zigg's skills have waveclear and poke yet he doesn't have these costs...
LOL Please stop...how much Liss do YOU play?? Cause I'm rank 7. LOL
Treune811 votes[{quoted}](name=x Bush x,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Az6B1YiN,comment-id=000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2016-08-24T19:41:58.863+0000)
lol...k
All of Zigg's skills have waveclear and poke yet he doesn't have these costs...
LOL Please stop...how much Liss do YOU play?? Cause I'm rank 7. LOL
Yes you're rank 7 but you're Liss main so you aren't objective.
Rain NT1 votesWell I'm not a Liss main, so I'm not objective. Gtfo of here noob. Get better at the game before talking cause you dont understand the game or the champion at all. Just because some scrub bronze beat you with Liss doesnt meant you know anything. It only proves that your bad and no one agrees with you. Like I actually feel dumber everytime I see you comment. Get your stupidity out of here before it rubs on to me, damn scrubs.
xBushx1 votesI'm actually a Lee main. But played alot of Liss top.
Also if you didn't notice the mana cost is now 80 level 1 Q on PBE
Rain NT2 votesThat 5% of damage taken restored BY CHAMPION as mana would be a better passive yeah. No more free spells but more mana return so I guess worth. I say if 5% is too much I would lower the number to 3%.
This would be a good way for her to get mana because if the enemy champion doesnt do damage to her, she wont receive any mana at all. I would say that would balance her out quite nicely.
Treune811 votesThat 5% of damage taken restored BY CHAMPION as mana would be a better passive yeah. No more free spells but more mana return so I guess worth. I say if 5% is too much I would lower the number to 3%.
This would be a good way for her to get mana because if the enemy champion doesnt do damage to her, she wont receive any mana at all. I would say that would balance her out quite nicely.
Without COOLDOWN? BROKEN PASSIVE
Rain NT2 votesYoure honestly.. the biggest troll I've seen all day. If you dont like the post, stop commenting on everything I have to say pls. Cause clearly no one agrees with you. Even the pro players think she has mana problems and you dont think she does? what ranking are you?
Treune811 votesYoure honestly.. the biggest troll I've seen all day. If you dont like the post, stop commenting on everything I have to say pls. Cause clearly no one agrees with you. Even the pro players think she has mana problems and you dont think she does? what ranking are you?
You're the biggest salty I've ever seen.Because you and bronzies think Lissandra is fine.
Treune811 votesMeanwhile Fizz's E skill has 90 mana cost and Fizz hasn't Liss passive.
Vekkna1 votesFizz's E is also a mini version of Lissandra's ult but on an 112 second shorter CD.
Treune812 votesFizz's E is also a mini version of Lissandra's ult but on an 112 second shorter CD.
Are you sure? Fizz's E hasn't stun, burst damage, 2.5 seconds heal, and 3 seconds Zhonya.The only similar feature slowing.
Vekkna1 votesUntargetability, aoe damage, slow. 270 + .75 vs. 300 + .7.
Sona x Rubick2 votesbut lissandra ulti can't stun and heal at the same time.
Treune811 votesSalt is real.Liss wil get more nerf after Worlds.
Rain NT1 votesGet roasted and have nothing else better to say. Lack of vocabulary too I see, dont tell me.. dont tell me that you are stupid in real life too. Cause damn man, bruh I dont know what to say, if youre bad at league but youre stupid in real life too, whats the point of your life? I feel bad for you, you might want to apply some ice on dat ass, cause I know you butthurt haha
Treune811 votesGet roasted and have nothing else better to say. Lack of vocabulary too I see, dont tell me.. dont tell me that you are stupid in real life too. Cause damn man, bruh I dont know what to say, if youre bad at league but youre stupid in real life too, whats the point of your life? I feel bad for you, you might want to apply some ice on dat ass, cause I know you butthurt haha
Hahaha.Mad guy talked.You're salty and you exposed.5 ages kid.
Rain NT1 votesWell if I'm 5, then that makes you dumber than a 5 year old ;) #Roasted I have no more time to waste on you, sorry but I have no intention to keep on replying to people who cant create more than a sentence comeback ;D
Treune811 votesWell if I'm 5, then that makes you dumber than a 5 year old ;) #Roasted I have no more time to waste on you, sorry but I have no intention to keep on replying to people who cant create more than a sentence comeback ;D
You claimed salty guy.I didn't claim.Get rekt by Treune81.Cry more.Screams are nice.
Rain NT1 votesk noob ;)
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Rain NT1 votesk noob ;) I GOT ALL DAY BABY
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Treune811 voteswhat took you so long, dont pussy out now
k noob ;) understand, you follow my orders, reply asap so I reply with k noob ;D
What cried you so long.Cry more brath.
Ok low elo bronze player.You continue crying.
Rain NT1 votesFrom the person who said " What cried you so long" lmao grammar please... LOL.. your english is so bad it tilts me.. honestly.. I'm not roasting, its just a fact xD its garbage, bro you need to fix that.
But anyway, k noob ;) Goodjob, you still following my orders haha feels good
Rain NT1 votesLOL I purposely didnt add the "?" but the sentence was proper grammar idiot. And its grammAr not grammEr. Holy shit actually stupid.. LMAO stop.. your english is garbage. Spare me xD
k noob ;)
