Why don't we just give Lee Sin Rek'Sai's vision when tunneling?

Trendition··96 votes·7,329 views

I mean he is blind and he does have two vision granting spells(His Q grants vision if i am not mistaking). It would also somewhat nerf him but make him more interesting. Also before this gets down voted they should just increase his Q's cool down so that he gets nerfed.

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Jillfinger17 votes

Since he is blind why not just give him a completely black screen then

CarrierKestral23 votes

because then he wouldn't just be blind, he would be a vegetable.

Solis Deus1 votes

It's a sarcastic comment, I believe.

CarrierKestral2 votes

welcome to the forums. you must be new here.

Fisk10 votes

Because then he would be balanced..... Duhh

exiledFromBadmen1 votes

Lissandra

Toru Itai13 votes

like rek's but remove that little bubble of sight too.

hotdamjam9 votes

This was actually pretty funny, I can imagine, Pre Patch 4.22, Lee Sin Win rate 45.89 % Post Patch 4.22 Lee Sin Win Rate 35.42%

Hyrum Graff4 votes

I dunno, I think it might actually be a buff. Easier to hit Q's out of nowhere.

ULTRAF0RCE2 votes

He would for sure be less popular with inexperienced players then, because while that doesn't directly make him harder it makes him less similar to most champions

Remlap12233 votes

I'm beating a dead horse here Hecarim but Win Rate is not reflective of champion health. There's a reason why he's 90% pick/ban in LCS.

TheKingDodo8 votes

How about he can only see through the his allies, ally minions, and wards? also he won't grant any vision to his allies naturally unless he lands his q or e. as a minor compensation buff, allow his q vision to persist after his second q. it now takes skill to use r... rather than making it a point and click nuke that spells deaths for the target.

Tis a nice day7 votes

This would thus completely cement Lee's love of wards.

Meep Man6 votes

Would make sense since most of his skills give vision except for his W and R.

Tis a nice day4 votes

And a good deal of his W's utility comes from wards (makes up for his blindness).

maikokk5 votes

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10Tickler4 votes

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Not only do I...

See

What you did there.

I also Approve.

Sammystorm5 votes

but but but lee sin can't tunnel >.

RoyaiChaos4 votes

Lissandra

exiledFromBadmen1 votes

She's picking at OGN, so this would be definetely a nerf

RoyaiChaos1 votes

Just saying >.>

Adrenalotr3 votes

I thought about this. I think it would work best as a passive. He'd have normal vision, but also the ability to sense people in FOW. Just not always.

It would make his Q quite interesting if he could see that there's an enemy on the other side of a wall, but even if his Q hit, he wouldn't be able to tell which enemy that is. Q would no longer reveal, but it'd still travel with the target, and he could still jump to it.

It could also be a passive effect of one of his actives, and go on cooldown along with that ability. To not give him too much early power (he has enough already), it'd make sense to put it on his ulti. First time you level up the ulti, you get this passive. When the ulti is on cooldown, you don't have it anymore.

Another possible way to incorporate it into his kit would be to make it a passive that only works when he's not using his other abilities. This thing would disappear whenever he used an ability, go on a 10-second cooldown or something. 10 seconds is a long time. The idea is that when he's clearing his jungle and securing buffs and stuff, he'd make so much combat noise that he can't hear enemies approach. When he's not fighting or using abilities, he can sense people in the FOW.

The big danger with adding to his already rather loaded kit and giving him too much utility. Since Riot have said that the big thing about Lee is his mobility, and ability to disrupt the enemy team, his E and passive are not necessarily part of that concept. Either or both of them could be remade into something that fits his theme better, and incorporate this special vision thing.

Hayaishi2 votes

Lee sees through the sound waves or something, he should have some kind of vision.

However i don't think Riot ever wants to use his blindness as the theme of his kit

AtheosisX3 votes

It would make sense, so yeah they probably won't do it.

Renaille9 votes

{quoted} Lee sees through the sound waves or something, he should have some kind of vision.

http://youtu.be/05U97BezDYc?t=9m3s

This is all I could think of.

Diostukos2 votes

{quoted}

Lee sees through the sound waves or something, he should have some kind of vision.

However i don't think Riot ever wants to use his blindness as the theme of his kit

"Welcome to the league of legends champion spotlight featuring Lee Sin, the Blind Monk."

-has two vision granting abilities

?????

JC DarkOmen2 votes

It's already the theme for half his kit. his q emits a sonar wave that locates his enemy so he can fly toward him, his w does the same but as an AoE and a slow, his e requires a friendly unit or himself. Only his ult implies that he can actually see the target

HidingOverHere2 votes

remake lee sin into this. Not just underpowered champs can be reworked yknow. All champions that cause this many balance problems should be reworked. Can even reduce cd of all his spells to like 2 sec to help him "see" better.

Vicvictorw2 votes

Beautiful.

Make it happen, rito

BrutalCabbage2 votes

Seriously, this joke is becoming old

exiledFromBadmen2 votes

What about Lissandra? Lissie is blind

Necosh2 votes

Better yet, a smaller option, give Rek'Sai vision of lee sin's q victim. Either way it would be the blind leading the blind.

Levyathyn1 votes

This left bad taste in my mouth. But you have my +1... and my grudging respect.

Yulen Xoshxius1 votes

He can still sense the area around him I would imagine, but they should do something to pair with his blind aspect to make it more interesting.

Narasimha1 votes

Because from the past, its easy to infer another outcome. They'd give him compensation buffs as well. And no one wants that.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

I don't think being blind is the only thing that defines him (He's a martial artist), and Lissandra is also blind so you might as well give her that.

Quort1 votes

YES! Lissandra is blind, however, she is also completely aware of her surroundings... HOW, YOU ASK? The answer is really badass: HEAT VISION!

white Eragon1 votes

since RekSai is blind , its kinda natural

AGarner1 votes

[{quoted}](name=white Eragon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AvAvF4iX,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2014-12-16T00:00:25.943+0000) since RekSai is blind , its kinda natural

she isn't blind, her eyes are hidden so she doesn't get sand in them

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

[{quoted}](name=white Eragon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AvAvF4iX,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2014-12-16T00:00:25.943+0000) since RekSai is blind , its kinda natural

Is she? We just know that she can't see well burrowed.

Juggernaut Jesus1 votes

You guys really want this in the game?

Keevalroy1 votes

I agree. Since his abilities grant vision, and because he naturally builds sightstone, I don't see why he shouldn't have permanent vision restrictions. It would fit his theme more by forcing him to 'feel' for his targets. I can definitely get behind this.

SummonerSquid1 votes

Lee Sin and Rek'Sai are champions. The summoner commands the champion. If you think about it this way, Rek'Sai losing vision while tunneling is thematically silly.

It Is I Emoto1 votes

I'm not a lee sin main, and niether I didn't played as rek'sai, though, his ability homeguard would become quite useless, since he can't jump to wards/allies anymore if they're not seeable. Yeah lee sin needs nerfs, but reworking his whole kit, so that he depends on that rek'sai alike burrowed passive, would be probably hard.

LOMAC691 votes

What Riot should do is give lee super smell, that way he can spell champs like Twitch . Also he already has an ability that lets him see invis targets around him.

Jarrito2321 votes

LeeSin GUYS I KNOW YOU ARE AROUND HERE! YOU JUST STOPPED MOVING!

Williwaw871 votes

This would be great!

Inphernal1 votes

:3

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