I'm done with Zedmains jerking their champ, claiming that he isn't that good, when in reality he is broken like fucking hell
A champ with no manacosts that completely oneshots enemies without even needing to ult.
I'm so fucking done with this game at this point. This balanceteam is a fucking joke.
Dat Kat37 votesIN 
'S WORLD
Hexs Fortune1 votesIN
Pretty much, be a tanky champ that can threaten damage
Dat Kat1 votesNo, pretty much means be that can threaten anything in the game.
saltran28 votesIn every single world outside the Trash Boards.
haenex4 votesIkr
Naymliss13 votes^ This exactly. You can say he's annoying to play against or whatnot, but claiming he's overpowered? Cmon, that's super far from the truth and they know it. Most assassins play like him, it's a matter of learning how to beat them as a whole.
saltran7 votesHey I'm an adc main
It's kinda obvious that I dont like Zed, but neither I think that he's op.
Thefrostyviking3 votesI mean, its all about maining the right marksmen when dealing with zed.
I can play tristana and just laugh my ass off as he tries to do anything at all no problem.
Or kai sa/lucian if i feel like making a sport of it.
Or Xayah to just ensure he will never get a single ult on you.
Or you can main Ashe, kog, MF or Jinx and just get the daylights wrecked......some matchups play out better than others and thats about it.
My Waifu Vanilla1 votesEven Ashe does decent while she's grouped she can stall for her team to react by simply ulting him the second he comes out of his own ult. At that point he gets hit by whatever your support has and he just dies right then and there while CC chained.
Thefrostyviking2 votesAshe in my experience isnt a good pick into zed, the reason being that if his burst is just too high, especially with ignite.
If you dont have a support like lulu or someone who manages to react perfectly and instantly stun him the moment he goes anywhere near you then its a bad deal.
R-E-AA-ignite actually kills you even with tabi post some point, if he hits the Q´s then he does it with no issue at all which makes the lack of mobility very depressing.
D357R0Y3R27 votesin a world where he has 22 sec cd on his all in/poke ability
in a world where his ult makes him a cc target for everyone
in a world where nobody plays him above d1
in a world where challenger zed mains are hardstuck d2 because of the balance team that destroyed zed
in a world where people need to get good at the game
BeatzBoyFTW21 votesin a world where it takes only 1 combo to chunk 1/2 of squishy mages' HP at early game.
in a world where you can't deny that Zed doesn't necessarily needs an ult to kill a squishy player.
in a world where mages are forced to rush a defensive item as a 1st item rather than a sustain item to fight against a Zed.
ankoanko1921 votesin a world where it takes only 1 combo to chunk 1/2 of squishy mages' HP at early game.
Oh yeah because 
etc cant do that too right? Zed isnt op nor FOTM, he just is decent. But in higher elos you can def see Zed struggling.
BeatzBoyFTW16 votes Needs to be at my face to be doing actual damage.
Q blockable by minions. E is harmless, and W can be pretty ez to juke.
Won't lie, she can be a pain in the ass if you're playing something like even Galio.
For each Q transition she does alongside W, she wastes a lot of mana. Can be juke-able or you gotta take the hit, but not as severe as Zed's.
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ankoanko1910 votesIn that case Zed's W has a short range so you can abuse it. You then have a 20s window after he uses his W gank him and he cant do anything that time while Ori can speed herself up since her W cooldown is 7 at all ranks.
Zeds W+E+Q doesnt take away half your hp if he doesnt use some AA at early levels. W+E+Q deals less dmg than LB's Q+W.
D357R0Y3R12 votesNo
just no
and no
but well we play in a different range of mmr so maybe that explains why he can take 1/2 of a squishy mage hp's in your game
that's literally the explination, and i'm done arguing about zed with low elo when this champ has been hammered down by riot and no pro player no midlane main in high elo plays him (ie: scarra except when he gets demoted to d2)
BeatzBoyFTW6 votesIt's almost as if becoming Diamond gives free 30 Armor every game, wow.
D357R0Y3R12 votesnah it just makes you able to understanad how to play against zed's losing conditions which are his fucking W cd and ult making you able to cc him for free and kill him
also 1/2 of a mage hp with his combo in early game is fucking bullshit, just bullshit it doesn't exist and if it existed faker and crown would already have played zed over leblanc
LTK KoRo25 votesIn world where every player is gold or higher
Naymliss7 votesCan't confirm, am gold and int zed most of the time pre 6
ankoanko1920 votesZed isnt op, just git gud. Don't feed him and play passive. Deny him kills and he is basically useless. He has 0 CC outside a VERY situational slow. Not weird to see how in higher elos Zeds banrate and pickrate decreases compared to the lower ones.
five oh tree 14 votes[deleted]
BeNiceToOthers3 votes[{quoted}](name=Bardent Censer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AoisWjVf,comment-id=0025,timestamp=2018-10-01T00:35:35.701+0000)
Your most played champ is
and you're complaining about balance and not needing ult? Absolutely incredible.
You're overdue for your prescribed medication: Git Gud. I recommend multiple doses immediately.
And what does that have anything to do with his argument? You're dismissing his argument because he plays Brand?? None of what he says is wrong. Zed doesn't need ult to kill anyone anymore and he is manaless. If you have anything meaningful to add to the discussion say it, otherwise go away. League doesn't need anymore toxicity.
LTK KoRo3 votesZed totally needs ult to kill someone, unless he's 6/0 at 15 minute. And being manaless isn't something which makes champions busted/toxic/overpowered. There are tons of manaless balanced champions, but low elo will always complain about Zed, because he's able to kill them lol
five oh tree 5 votesI'm dismissing his argument because it's the same old circle jerk that it's always been with very little truth to it. It's not even an argument. It's just salty tears. If zed is fed, he doesn't need ult; if he is not, he does. That's the same case with every single assassin.
I pointed out brand to point out the irony of his post. Brand is FAR more oppressive than zed, especially since the liandry buffs. I'd go against 1000 zeds before I faced a brand. Zed being manaless means nothing as soon as a mage spends 1300g and is practically the same.
If you have anything to contribute to the conversation, say it, otherwise go away. League doesn't need any more silver circlejerks crowding its boards :)
Sharpest glasses1 votesHe also abuse 
l MrD l13 votesyeh it used to be good when champions relied on ults to be able to duel and kill but now its just there as a bonus extra play making ... :S
Shablagoo13 votesReally people are still complaining about zed? Be honest with yourself man there is literally nothing they can do to make him balanced enough for you, other then remove him. You just can't admit that maybe the player was just better then you. For Zed to kill with his w,e,q alone is a good indicator that maybe your team fed him. And guess what he needs to get there someway, meaning someone fed him. There are actually OP champions like Graves, MF, and Kass. And then there are just champions you hate playing against like Yas and zoe. Those champions arent op they just are annoying. Annoying does not equal op, its just annoying.
Kadexe12 voteshttps://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Zed/graphs/
In the Real world.
Sona Ping11 votesI'm done with Zedmains jerking their champ, claiming that he isn't that good, when in reality he is broken like fucking hell
A champ with no manacosts that completely oneshots enemies without even needing to ult.
I'm so fucking done with this game at this point. This balanceteam is a fucking joke.
In a world where people adapt to the match they're in and the opposing team doesn't feed a champ 29 kills at a rate of 1/min and blame that on the balance team.
BLIGHTBRINGER8 votesTo be honest I would be fine with Zed, if it wasn't for his current Ult.
His ultimate ability might be one of the strongest in the game. Him being able to store 55% of the damage that he deals from practically all sources is rediculous. And anyone who can't buy an item like Zhonya's Hourglass get's punished, because it's undodgeble due to being a point to click ability. And even then if you manage to bypass his R you're basically a sitting duck for him to W + E + Q + Ignite + Electrocute.
Zed's R is badly designed because he punishes basically almost everyone and himself once they have ways of bypassing his R.
ankoanko196 votesYou dont need an early hourglass, just buy an armguard and you deny him every lethality dmg set he has. Unless you're like 40% hp when he ults you, at which point that was your own fault.
Flashes1 votesYou dont need an early hourglass, just buy an armguard and you deny him every lethality dmg set he has. Unless you're like 40% hp when he ults you, at which point that was your own fault.
I hate hate hate it when people say "Buy an armband" because that's a HUGE money sink for less effect.
If you play poke mage save up for Lost Chapter, only dropping 300 for cloth armor.
Give up survivability for relevance. I see too many people making this mistake, because Zed builds lethality and negates most of the armor from armband.
LeBlanc Rose3 votesAnd you still get 35 ap? He doesnt want to die vs a veig, he gets hexdrinker. You can't complain a certain item is so bad to buy as it puts you behind, then complain when you die because you didn't buy it.
ankoanko191 votesWhat?! You get 20 ap, 30 armor off the bat and 0.5 armor extra for every minion kill. WHO THE FUCK COMPLAINS ABOUT MANA SUSTAIN IN 2018?! Just go timewarp & corrupting.
LOLOL6 votesI think AD mids have been nothing but toxic to the game. I think mages are balanced, fun, take skill and resource management and should be promoted, not these toxic champions like Yasuo, Talon, Zed. You feel cheated every fking time when you play against this crap. You feel like you have to be so careful, while they just bang their head against the keyboard and humiliate you while carrying the game.
And top lane just gets camped every game by junglers who barely have to farm anymore.
Apocalypsic4 votesI think AD mids have been nothing but toxic to the game. I think mages are balanced, fun, take skill and resource management and should be promoted, not these toxic champions like Yasuo, Talon, Zed. You feel cheated every fking time when you play against this crap. You feel like you have to be so careful, while they just bang their head against the keyboard and humiliate you while carrying the game.
And top lane just gets camped every game by junglers who barely have to farm anymore.
Meanwhile professional and high elo mid lane is dominated by mages.
Mage players complaining about how weak mages are while they are one of the strongest classes in the game is no new story to the boards though.
Vexilus7 votesAs a mage main I agree.
How dare an assassin one shot me as I effortlessly pump out 20k more damage than them in the game
MLDzXnRRR1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hi Im a Cat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AoisWjVf,comment-id=00200000,timestamp=2018-09-30T23:34:34.666+0000)
Meanwhile professional and high elo mid lane is dominated by mages.
Mage players complaining about how weak mages are while they are one of the strongest classes in the game is no new story to the boards though.
5v5 is different than soloQ, plus they play for money and can't make risks - it is easy to face 4 tanks in LCS even as a normal team comp, what about playing AD assassin, good luck. You can't rely on getting fed by the enemy botlane or mid in LCS, there are like 3 people per team running TP, good luck ganking bot and getting away... Your lategame as AD assassin there is also bad, because you can't split vs equally fed toplaner. There is a big difference in meta and strategy in e-sports. You don't play in pro; in high elo it's 50/50 whether the game will be boring stomp or clown fiesta without tryharding.
AirKingNeo5 voteswhat a world where people complain less about actually broken champions 
and more about champions who never see competitive play.
saltran2 votesHow many Ahri-Kha'Zix-Kassadin picks/bans have you seen on Summer Split out of all regions?
I answer for you, none or really few.
And Graves/Jhin/Hecarim are viable on pro play but not not strong.
Maquiavélico5 votesAnd remember: he's still getting a buff every 2-4 patchs!!
Serious thing, I don't think he's "completly broken", I find him useless against a good support but Riot definetly should remove some of his early power. What a stupid champ
LTK KoRo5 votesHe deserves all of his early power for his terrible lategame. Zed shouldn't be bad at entirety of the game because players doesn't know how to fight him
Pepega IRL1 votesAre u insane mate, you know that he got touched 3 times in the entirety of s8 and has been touched once rn in s9
Maquiavélico1 votesI only have to read your name.
theonemanshow4 votesMaybe you are low elo and need to see him played against decent players.
Barcid3 votesPretty sure the exact state of Zed is that he is broken in terms of when his power is.
Early he is a fucking obnoxiously unfair douche-canoe that procs two items worth of free damage off of an ult, drops a 300 damage summoner spell on you, and then spams laugh afterwards, while late-game he sucks donkey chode as everyone and their mother has GA and Zhonya's and the tanks just giggle at his attempts to do much of anything.
I have asked multiple times to stop this "LolgottawinearlyorI'mworthlessasdogshit" balancing nonsense with Zed, but Rito doesn't care. Just pumped more power into his early and hoped that balanced out his win-rates versus putting in effort to make the champion itself more balanced.
Aryan MasterRage2 votesWhat? How does ultless Zed oneshot anyone?
Śhunpo2 votesW->Q->E->auto OR W->E->Q->auto
Aryan MasterRage3 votesQ: 80 / 115 / 150 / 185 / 220 (+ 90% bonus AD) E: 70 / 95 / 120 / 145 / 170 (+ 80% bonus AD) Auto: 100% AD + passive dmg if below 50%
You need to be afking for 15min in the game if that oneshots anything.
