Lategame Boots Idea

SlashStriker·Sep 12, 2016·3 votes·389 views

Berserker + Cloak of Agility 50 mov speed, 40% attack speed, 30% crit chance

Sorcerer + Blasting Wand 50 mov speed, 60 AP, 30 magic pen

Ninja Tabi + Chain Vest 50 mov speed, 70 armor 12% phys damage reduction 10% critical Damage Reduction

Mercury + Negatron Cloak 50 mov speed, 70 magic res 15% magic damage reduction 30% tenacity

Lucidity + Kindlegem 50 mov speed, 300 health 20% cooldown reduction 20% summoner cooldown reduction

Swiftness upgrade 60 mov speed 30% slow reduction Active (duration 3, cooldown 20): Grands 30% movement speed that decays over time and movement slow immunity

Mobility upgrade 30 mov speed unique: Gains up to 30% while moving, not taking damage or deal damage unique Next Basic attack steals 15% movement speed for 2 seconds from enemy champion 10 sec cooldown

17 Comments

XinZhao2WinNhaoSep 12, 20162 votes

We need an AD boots.

Bladerunner7777Sep 12, 20161 votes

Boots are already super cost efficient

SlashStrikerSep 12, 20161 votes

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Boots are already super cost efficient

you sell item 3006 for item 3046 or item 3087 how would be effective if you gonna sell them late game?

So you are telling me that these items item 3046 item 3087
are not cost effective and are worst than item 3006 ?

EndlessSorcererSep 12, 20162 votes

You sell your boots late-game for an item with a higher slot value since at that point cost efficiency matters less than slot efficiency.

Boots are an efficient source of movement speed and useful stats for the vast majority of the game, but you may as well replace them for something stronger at full build.

SlashStrikerSep 12, 20161 votes

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You sell your boots late-game for an item with a higher slot value since at that point cost efficiency matters less than slot efficiency.

Boots are an efficient source of movement speed and useful stats for the vast majority of the game, but you may as well replace them for something stronger at full build.

thats the opposite of what i suggest at first you say boots are extremely viable then you sell the boots for stronger late game option

I personally wont sell something that i think is very viable and if its not strong i would never buy it

Doing exactly what you say is waste of time and money which leads to cost deficiency because you sell that item to get better item (literally)

what i am trying to suggest is to keep the boots but to be able to upgrade it for late game not just to sell it and lose gold

EndlessSorcererSep 12, 20161 votes

The point you are missing is that you sell boots when you have already reached full build and cost efficiency no longer matters.

Arguing about the cost is pointless if you have already purchased everything you want to buy anyways.

If the game happens to reach the point you are at full build and have enough gold for another item, you lose ~500G swapping out your boots.

However, you only lose that gold at a point where it no longer matters since you have nothing to spend it on aside from renewing Elixirs and replacing items (which is exactly what selling your boots is).

In exchange for that possible ~500G loss (since most games end long before players reach their full build), you have a far stronger early, mid and late-game presence due the mobility provided by boots.

SlashStrikerSep 12, 20161 votes

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The point you are missing is that you sell boots when you have already reached full build and cost efficiency no longer matters.

Arguing about the cost is pointless if you have already purchased everything you want to buy anyways.

If the game happens to reach the point you are at full build and have enough gold for another item, you lose ~500G swapping out your boots.

However, you only lose that gold at a point where it no longer matters since you have nothing to spend it on aside from renewing Elixirs and replacing items (which is exactly what selling your boots is).

In exchange for that possible ~500G loss (since most games end long before players reach their full build), you have a far stronger early, mid and late-game presence due the mobility provided by boots.

why would you think that buying boots will give you stronger early game? This delays better items that you would build

EndlessSorcererSep 12, 20161 votes

Mobility is extremely important.

Even if it doesn't seem like a noticeable amount, even an amount as small as 5 MS can be the sole thing which lets you:

Chase down a kill
Escape a pursuer
Reach a lane in time to gank/countergank
Avoid a skillshot by sidestepping it or slightly outranging it
Reach lane in time to freeze the wave or CS under tower
Rotate between objectives faster than your opponents

The difference in movement speed may appear small, but the results of it can be rather significant.

Champions have had their winrates drops by 2 or 3% when their movement speed is nerfed by 5 in previous patches.

Bladerunner7777Sep 12, 20161 votes

People only do that in like 60 minute games where movement speed isn't as important because the next fight is going to determine the game.

Even then, movement speed can help ADCs kite easier in addition to running to the enemy nexus faster

People don't sell their boots insantly even if they have the money to do it. Selling boots is based on deathtimers, not gold.

EndlessSorcererSep 12, 20161 votes

Generally, you just sell boots for another item which provides movement speed in the last-game.

ADCs have item 3046 item 3087 item 3094 item 3085 Mages have item 3100 item 3285 AD assassins have item 3078 item 3142 item 3147 Fighters/Tank have item 3742 item 3512 item 3800

SlashStrikerSep 12, 20161 votes

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Generally, you just sell boots for another item which provides movement speed in the last-game.

ADCs have Mages have AD assassins have Fighters/Tank have

if i am to buy these items i would not buy boots at all

EndlessSorcererSep 12, 20163 votes

Boots are extremely valuable for movement speed throughout most of the game.

By not buying them, you would just be leaving yourself at a disadvantage through the vast majority of the game. You'd only really "catch up" when people started selling their own boots, by which point gold isn't really an important factor anymore.

SlashStrikerSep 12, 20161 votes

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Boots are extremely valuable for movement speed throughout most of the game.

By not buying them, you would just be leaving yourself at a disadvantage through the vast majority of the game. You'd only really "catch up" when people started selling their own boots, by which point gold isn't really an important factor anymore.

right now i will give you 1 item than beats all the boots item 3069

there are people like me that ignore boots because there are way better options than them

For instance who wins Ashe item 3087 vs Ashe item 3006

EndlessSorcererSep 12, 20161 votes

Boots provide movement speed at all times and locations within the game and may be purchased by anyone (except Cassiopeia).

Talisman of Ascension provides an active which boosts movement speed for 3s and a situation movement speed boost near towers. In addition, it is realistically only purchased on supports since other roles have more efficient items.

They are not comparable in the least.

Bladerunner7777Sep 12, 20161 votes

Ashe item 3006 wins because she will actually make it to teamfights/objectives in time

You look foolish arguing that boots are bad

Wolfram OxfordSep 12, 20161 votes

I like the idea of giving upgraded boots, like we used to have, but what you suggest is give them way too much power. Perhaps just think about a MS buff, small stat buffs, and small passives.

SlashStrikerSep 12, 20161 votes

for instance why would you get that item 3047 if this item 2053 is X times better?