No unfed champion should be able to 1v2. 1v3 on regular bases no matter what the circumstances

MunchCrunchLunch··2 votes·621 views

am looking at Illaoi . first off. its not her ult anymore. before. it used to be. run away from her ult. you win fights against her. due to the changes. her tentacles. will automatically attack you. and if she Es you and ult. tentacles. will spawn near you even if you aren't near her.

also. her E is much stronger. old E . used tobe annoying. her new E gives her too much power

let me just say no champion in league of legends. can do as much damage as illaoi.

i mean its just doesn't feel right when you flash out of her ult. dodge her E and still get dpsed down because her W is buffed as hell now.

i don't understand how a 2/2 illaoi can' 1v2 shen and sion and not even lose half her health. nobody can do that in the game to any sort of extend. she isn't outplaying anyone. shes kiteable. but that goes for every juggernaut. meanwhile other juggs. aren't nearly as strong early game. neither they have so much aoe damage and sustain.

her tentacles used to be dodgable. now its about 10x harder they swing too fast.

you made a terrible champion thats all about damage. and the only way to make her viable. is to buff her damage up the fucking ass. and thats what you did.

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The Yetii Rider7 votes

Actually I'm pretty sure ALL the juggernauts can 1v2, except maybe Skarner and Udyr. Darius, Morde, Mundo, Nasus, Shyvana...

Damage is kind of their "thing". Along with being durable.

KvotheAdem1 votes

Udyr use to be able to 1 v 2/ 1 v 3

Then this shitty season happened and now he's trash. I don't even know how they rate him as a juggernaut when Sona does more damage then him

Guyy Fieri4 votes

The thing with Illaoi is that it doesn't matter how many kills you have on her, if she gets farmed or also gets kills, she can snowball very hard. That's her niche. She isn't a champion that you wanna trade kills with as you have to be ahead of her to really be able to kill her.

Mistress Shyvana1 votes

Which is unhealthy for the game.

Guyy Fieri1 votes

I disagree...I think it's fair that some champions can play like that in an even gold matchup provided that that's the playstyle, and that Illaoi's playstyle

Mistress Shyvana1 votes

The fact that by default shes much stronger than you on even gold. I understand different champions are stronger than others for reasons but when one is generally stronger than almost everyone it becomes a problem. There isn't much to do about it though, its her design. She pumps out damage, without that shes nothing. No CC, slow with no gap closer (Her W is a measly dash on her measly AA range)

Astôlfo1 votes

Except she's only that strong against a team of enemy idiots.

Guyy Fieri2 votes

Illoai isn't stronger than everyone else though. She is so punishable in lane to ganks. It's kinda like Nasus. If you let Nasus farm forever, eventually he'll beable to one shot the ADC and win the fight. Same thing with Illaoi, give her enough gold she can wreck but if you can punish her early the win before Illaoi catches up to you (likely both at full build) then you're good to go.

Astôlfo1 votes

No, not really. Any half-decent team would just instantly CC her and shred her with GW and their ADC/burst once she's locked down. Or at the very least, bait her ult and just back off or CC her for duration of ult more or less to negate her essentially.

Astôlfo3 votes

First of all, PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT A QQ THREAD ABOUT ILLAOI.

Second of all, you are incorrect. Tentacles will not automatically attack you. They will automatically attack the Spirit. If you're in the way, that's not their problem. You were simply in the way of said Spirit, and thus, got hit along with it. Next, the only other way they will attack is if she Ws someone. If she does that, the tentacles in range will all slap towards said target.

Third, tentacles will only spawn near you without her if you've been hit by the E debuff. Same as always. Not even sure why this is in the thread.

Fourth, you are flat-out incorrect about the new E being "much" stronger. It was a significant nerf (60 seconds to like 12 seconds) in return for faster tentacle spawns and more recently, letting them spawn closer together, which was perfectly reasonable. Except said tentacles still swing so slow if you get hit, then you're bad and deserve it.

Fifth, you are again, flat-out incorrect. Every single champion in the game can do more damage than Illaoi. And Illaoi can do more damage than all of them. It depends on the (Illaoi) player, the teamcomps, the ally team, and the enemy team.

If you still managed to die after flashing out of her ultimate and dodging her E, that's your own problem. Also, W is just an empowered auto. You can't flash away once the animation starts. Same as every other auto. Also lolno, her W is not "buffed as hell". It's been reworked into % health over flat damage bonus. That's simply a change to focus on a different set of targets than it used to (flat favors anti-squishy, % favors anti-tank).

If a 2/2 Illaoi can 1v2 Shen and Sion and not even lose half her health, it's because Shen and Sion had no idea how to play against her and were idiots. Executioner's Calling is 800 gold and grants AD, which suits both Shen and Sion. Also, they should not be fighting inside her ult. Also, with how much CC Shen and Sion have, she should never have been a problem in the first place to at least keep away and stay alive, even if she counters both of them.

"she isn't outplaying anyone" mmk buddy. Well, your teammates/her enemies are outplaying themselves by not having a flying damn understanding of how to play against her and literally just playing into her strengths.

"meanwhile other juggs. aren't nearly as strong early game. neither they have so much aoe damage and sustain." Incorrect. Her damage only is as strong as the number of Tentacles around her. She is a zone champion. Other juggernauts have no such restriction to a place. They carry said zone with them. They are the zone. If you decide to fight her inside a place full of them, that is your fault. Next, the majority of her damage is physical damage dealt through skillshots. If you don't dodge her skillshots, buy armor, or buy Executioner's, that is your fault.

"her tentacles used to be dodgable. now its about 10x harder they swing too fast." Um, no. They're still the same as they were before.

"you made a terrible champion thats all about damage. and the only way to make her viable. is to buff her damage up the fucking ass. and thats what you did." mmk bud, cry more.

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Milodic Mellodi1 votes

I wish there was a follow option in these threads, I love your comments :3

Astôlfo1 votes

Aww thank you <3

Weathered1 votes

Cs

KvotheAdem1 votes

Farmed champions/Higher leveled champions is pretty much a snowball.

If I have 3 levels on you, and I have half an item/full item up on you, yes I'm gonna 1 v 3 you and you can't do jack about it. It's not really snowballing it's just knowing how to scale through farm and it's completely fair for them to 1 v 3 if you don't stop them from farming.

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