Rammus Mini-Rework: Ok or not?

DragonShea··4 votes·7,421 views

Well folks, as an old rammus main I have waited for some changes to happens to rammus's kit for some time now I gotta say. Some of it is cool, some is a bit eh- So I wanted to give my two cents on the matter.

P: Now deals magic damage and doesn't scale to make Rammus a physical beast. Personally I am more glad than sad about this because now rammus will at least now feels like he has mixed up scaling and it will synergize well with the new Abyssal specter and his new W.

Q: mixed. I think that now that anything that can stop his Q now can be a pain for rammus but the improved collision range and Lv scaling for the MS is good. Lower damage ain't that good but Powerball has alway been a tool for ganking so that is cool. the increased slow is good enough I guess.

W: Tricky business, but it seems more like a nerf than a buff. reason? The scaling and the MS slow. I get that with the decreased CD you can have it up more often. but that really shouldn't make Rammus a sitting duck. He can no longer gain 120 resistances nor can he become a serious threat in the mid game by popping his W.

E: Like the E change. now he can do some good damage in the jungle when he taunts, the only issue is that he no longer reduces armor for the taunt duration which means that he can't synergize with assassins that well anymore.

R: Holy mother of god. it's finally happening. Rammus Ult can finally slow ^^ and deal double damage to structures. downside is lower damage but fuck that, Rammus is now a champions you NEVER want near your tower or inhibitor. NEVER!!!!

In conclusion. I think that these changes are good except for what is happening to rammus's W. If rammus is going to be a slowed defensive beast he needs it to be stronger or remove the MS reduction, Otherwise this seems like a pretty cool change to rammus.

17 Comments

Mordepool5 votes

Well it's not ok. They didn't Rework him in the Tank update because he needs a full VGU. This is bullshit

DragonShea1 votes

{quoted}

Well it's not ok. They didn't Rework him in the Tank update because he needs a full VGU. This is bullshit

Ok, well I am good for the moment. If this is bullshit you can bet your ass on me calling riot out on this shit.

PeepingPeafowl3 votes

The Q change is garbage, why does Rammus get canceled out of his ability by CC when Rakkan can take CC all day and still charm people. Running over a Soraka star field and getting silenced and insta losing powerball or all sorts of the CC that's gonna come your way is gonna look stupid and feel bad.

Also Riot literally just removed the self slow from Sejuani rework because it felt bad, so why re-add it to a character known for being fast? That W change makes no sense.

Xolute2 votes

Maybe because that's rakan's ultimate? With a 1 minute + cd? And rammus q is on a 10> cd?? Changing rammus q and w adds more strategy to the champ, rather than just running people down then pressing w.

PeepingPeafowl1 votes

So its ok to remove counter play as long as its an ult?

I don't see how it being an ultimate has anything to do with it.

If riot is gonna make changes they should be consistent.

Tortferngatr1 votes

Rakan's ult is still vulnerable to CC (i.e. holding him down so he can't whale on people), just less vulnerable to CC.

TheRiddum2 votes

SOURCE?

zigwhenzag2 votes

only thing rammus can fight with a 60% slow = turrets gg rammus. mastery 7 200k points rammus is dead to me. GG Rito make a real rework or dont change them. changing numbers heavily doesn't do anything for the champ. ADD a 60% slow to the repair of this and all tanks.

Oozlum1 votes

I was also a rammus main with 200k mastery point (look it up) I agree rammus is dead his shield is hurtful to him rather than help full, the only time that rammus's w give more than old rammus is lvl 1 and lvl 18 (or full build if you will) the thorns is nonexistent and the slow makes him one of the worst duelist in the game. (I do have to add i love his Q E and R) but a champion with only 3 ability and no passive is god awful. #RipRammy

Meep Man1 votes

P: Now deals magic damage and doesn't scale to make Rammus a physical beast. Personally I am more glad than sad about this because now rammus will at least now feels like he has mixed up scaling and it will synergize well with the new Abyssal specter and his new W.

It actually does scale, but with 10% Armor instead of 25% and magic instead of physical.

Q: mixed. I think that now that anything that can stop his Q now can be a pain for rammus but the improved collision range and Lv scaling for the MS is good. Lower damage ain't that good but Powerball has alway been a tool for ganking so that is cool. the increased slow is good enough I guess.

Agreed.

W: Tricky business, but it seems more like a nerf than a buff. reason? The scaling and the MS slow. I get that with the decreased CD you can have it up more often. but that really shouldn't make Rammus a sitting duck. He can no longer gain 120 resistances nor can he become a serious threat in the mid game by popping his W.

I disagree because you weren't really moving as Rammus before while you had this ability up. Not to mention you can now pop your Q every 6-3.6 seconds based on build and it can be canceled early. I find it to be a net buff in my opinion. Also, the scaling is really good. 70% Armor with at least 150 Armor is already 105 Armor and Magic Resist. Plus base is 125 so you have already surpassed the old one. The damage got a little bit nerfed until you have about 400 Armor during it, but that's ok, since that's pretty easy now.

E: Like the E change. now he can do some good damage in the jungle when he taunts, the only issue is that he no longer reduces armor for the taunt duration which means that he can't synergize with assassins that well anymore.

Agreed.

R: Holy mother of god. it's finally happening. Rammus Ult can finally slow ^^ and deal double damage to structures. downside is lower damage but fuck that, Rammus is now a champions you NEVER want near your tower or inhibitor. NEVER!!!!

AGREED.

FireDrizzle1 votes

I dont like the nerfed ap scalings at all. I know he is built tank but its nice to have the option to build a Liandries or Hextech Gunblade.

Q being interruptable will make Rammus hopeless I think. I would like to have a reduced cooldown for losing it. The slow is stronger but shorter duration so is that part a buff like you think? The W slow is innappropiate with the Q being interruptable imo. The W resists are actually stronger. All though scaling tankyness doesnt work as well as you expect. Sion isnt really stronger later for example. E is surprising, I bet Botrk will be good after you've built some tank items. It doesnt look like it makes up for damage lost elsewhere to me. The ult is a big buff because of the slow

This new Rammus looks really inneffective vs mobile champs to me. A mobile champ can cast a mobility spell through the reduced q slow duration if hit by it and the ult slow wont concern mobile champs as much. Not that he isnt better vs immobile champs all ready. Against the right team he might be strong with the extra w resists and reduced armour pen/reduction in the game

WEREW0LF1 votes

um.... something struck me 1 game ago. The new items like guardians have armor. they also have damage which I think is wonkey and dumb... but for a champion (one of the last since Galieo rework) to gain damage building defensively .... he is going to be 110% beast now.... dont ask too loudly, you will get it. wait they changed his passive? never mind. sounds like wits end would be a good item.

TengenToppaGnar1 votes

Don't complain about Q being interupptable. Quinn has the same mechanic, only Rammus goes into f***ing lightspeed when he does it. Have the homeguard buff from the fountain, his MS will hit over 2000 and he can literally travel faster than if you were using Teleport. THATS why its interupptable by everything. He'd be god awful broken, though his ability to suddenly be there for a gank will be frightful no matter.

Naching1 votes

Rammus is dead and bored thanks to riot.., right now we can make the useless riot do something, but its look so hard...

FSRER1 votes

this is the worst rework the could ever do. its not even a rework just a bored riot developer had evemy rammus and he got camped. then probably wen and "ok hes too broken lets change his w and put while active a -GOD DAMN- 60% slow so he cant do anything. GG riot

More from Gameplay

More by DragonShea