Darius is cancer to play against.

ShadowParker··5 votes·2,964 views

When he snowballs, he becomes a freaking monster. His teamfight presence and sustain are way to strong.

Can we please nerf either his sustain a little bit and or bring up his q mana cost? Right now, his q mana cost is practically nonexistent, even during laning. I want to feel good about baiting out his q during laning, but I don't when it barely costs anything.

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Tychusfindlay9193 votes

With his win rate sitting at around 51%, LCS presence this season amounting to nothing, and overall viability being average, I don't think Darius is an issue. He's in a fine spot.

He's a lane bully against certain champions and has a decent scale but not hyper scale unless if he can get off noxian might (which is a wee bit harder than some people think). I think his sustain is fine since he has to position himself to hit 3 enemies for full effect and has to go through a .75 second delay before his axe swings.

His ult can be totally ruined by a shield or heal, and unless if he gets noxian might off in a team fight he's nothing more than a tank with less CC and slightly more damage.

Jetjoe2 votes

Darius has enough sustain, heal, damage (true damage may I add), tankyness, to defeat an experienced laner and his jungler.

I dont main Darius at all, Im probably level 3-4 mastery on him though

ShadowParker2 votes

Hence me not asking to gut him. A small increase on his q mana cost would hit him enough where he's not a bully against the other laner.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Hence me not asking to gut him. A small increase on his q mana cost would hit him enough where he's not a bully against the other laner.

Hence me saying he doesn't need to be nerfed at all. AT ALL.

Jetjoe2 votes

Darius has enough sustain, heal, damage (true damage may I add), tankyness, to defeat an experienced laner and his jungler.

I dont main Darius at all, Im probably level 3-4 mastery on him though

I have found Taliyah Vayne Gnar Illaoi Jax Pantheon to be the most effective at consistently winning lane against darius.

I would never ever take Nasus Garen Yasuo Irelia into darius

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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Darius has enough sustain, heal, damage (true damage may I add), tankyness, to defeat an experienced laner and his jungler.

I dont main Darius at all, Im probably level 3-4 mastery on him though

I have found Taliyah Vayne Gnar Illaoi Jax Pantheon to be the most effective at consistently winning lane against darius.

I would never ever take Nasus Garen Yasuo Irelia into darius

Couldn't Yasuo stay out of his range, trade quickly then dash back out, and whittle his health down before either forcing Darius out or killing him? And then outscale him as the game goes on?

I played against Darius the other day as Yas and it wasn't that hard, though the Darius wasn't particularly good.

Jetjoe1 votes

Yes, but remember the biggest counters to tryndamere and yasuo are item 3075 and item 3143 . Even item 3068 will work against darius.

Darius would plan it so yasuo is not near Darius Minions, plus darius has the W and E option. Darius life steal is pretty darn good. and darius should win pre level 12 until yasuo gets blood thirster pretty easily. Remember darius can ult almost 400 true damage at level 6 which isnt too hard to get off. The combination of a few autos, Q, E, and R will WRECK yasuo

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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Yes, but remember the biggest counters to tryndamere and yasuo are item 3075 and item 3143 . Even item 3068 will work against darius.

Darius would plan it so yasuo is not near Darius Minions, plus darius has the W and E option. Darius life steal is pretty darn good. and darius should win pre level 12 until yasuo gets blood thirster pretty easily. Remember darius can ult almost 400 true damage at level 6 which isnt too hard to get off. The combination of a few autos, Q, E, and R will WRECK yasuo

If Darius is rushing those items he's going to be pretty useless against everyone else though, and late game it won't matter. Yasuo will still stomp Darius in a 1v1.

Sure, Darius wins an all in, but why all in or let him? Why can't the Yasuo plan it so they are near Darius' minions?

Also, top lane Yasuo shouldn't get bloodthirster against Darius IMO.

item 3046 item 3153 item 3031 item 3111 / item 3047 item 3143 item 3065

A Yas with this build would crush Darius 1v1 in splitpushing, while also being able to team fight.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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If Darius is rushing those items he's going to be pretty useless against everyone else though, and late game it won't matter. Yasuo will still stomp Darius in a 1v1.

Sure, Darius wins an all in, but why all in or let him? Why can't the Yasuo plan it so they are near Darius' minions?

Also, top lane Yasuo shouldn't get bloodthirster against Darius IMO.

item 3046 item 3153 item 3031 item 3111 / item 3047 item 3143 item 3065

A Yas with this build would crush Darius 1v1 in splitpushing, while also being able to team fight.

Highly doubt it. With built in sustain and a massive AD steroid built into Darius's new kit after his rework, he has all the tools to duel yasuo from level 3 onward (yasuo can cheese Darius pretty damn hard at level 2 with his dash and Q). Even with nearby minions, yasuo cannot hope to win a duel against Darius or trade since apprehend nullifies any attempt Yasuo makes to dash out of Darius's range. As with all melee matchups, when Darius is able to reengage and prolong fights, he typically comes out on top.

-platinum Darius main

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Darius has enough sustain, heal, damage (true damage may I add), tankyness, to defeat an experienced laner and his jungler.

I dont main Darius at all, Im probably level 3-4 mastery on him though

I have found Taliyah Vayne Gnar Illaoi Jax Pantheon to be the most effective at consistently winning lane against darius.

I would never ever take Nasus Garen Yasuo Irelia into darius

Jax is more of a skill matchup in my experience. Pantheon can semi bully Darius pre 6 but not as well as say vayne or gnar. Post level 6 Pantheon gets shat on since noxian guillotine is a much more effective dueling ability than grand skyfall for very obvious reasons.

Illaoi is a skill matchup.

Taliyah vayne and gnar I agree with. At that point, it becomes a matter of "can I apprehend them?"

If Darius can land an apprehend then he will heavily win a trade against those three. If they can kite Darius well then Darius will have a miserable time top lane.

Furor Nexis2 votes

You're complaining about him being OP now.

Boi if you were around post-juggernaut phase..Darius was terrifying back then.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

Darius is in a near perfect spot right now. He needs nothing.

RainbowIcee1 votes

he needs stacks! to get that booty!

Niyumi1 votes

Darius is loaded with counterplay, even when he's fed. Instead of complaining, look at his kit, and figure out why you die.

Now, if you were complaining about an ADC or Yi or someone just clicking you to death, I'd understand the frustration.

YumScrumptious961 votes

Wow, a champion that relies on snowballing gets really strong when they snowball? I never would've suspected.

Calabok1 votes

learn to fight him?

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