Win Lane, Now How to Win Game?

AcidTheWarlock··1 votes·925 views

Now I'd like to give a big thank-you to everyone who have made the new player guides, given me champ suggestions, and the different people in-game who weren't toxic and helped me improve.

First of all, I got a big problem. I know, I know, again, this freaking noob is back AGAIN, but I have really no other place to go to get individualized help.

I can consistently win lane, but I can't take the tower. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. In far too many games I've had to make a summoner 12 play to bot and help out my adc and support who have managed to get the other hypercarry fed. Of course, then I lose my tower and possibly my life for helping.

I then proceed to get yelled at for going back to lane to get even more fed, since I can shove the enemy laner away pretty easily. So I go back to teamfight, when we're still losing. Maybe we'll win and I'll point them at the objectives, but whenever another lane loses, I lose.

How can I take my advantage from winning in top to winning the game? How can I, as moderately fed from minions as I can get, drop towers and swing teamfights without having to be sworn out and reported?

Thanks for the tips!

5 Comments

Bladerunner77772 votes

A super simplified way:

If bot lane wins lane, rotate top and help your top laner get their tower

If top lane wins lane, rotate bot and help your bot laners get their tower

Don't automatically go mid because that's a problem that happens a lot in low elo: Everyone goes mid and nothing gets accomplished because mid lane is obviously in the center of the map so it's faster for the enemy to react and group against you when you're grouped, creating a standstill.

If you're mid and you win lane then you can roam top or bot really.

If the enemy leaves you in your lane alone then you can keep pushing to punish them but don't do it all of the time because it is easy to collapse on you. Splitpushers normally want to do this but if you splitpush you want to have vision so you don't get collapsed on.

Deballed1 votes

pretty sure it depends on what top lane champ your playing as , what champ do you play

AcidTheWarlock1 votes

Mages.

Ryze and Rumble

Occasional Zed and never again Fiora

1st Movement1 votes

This season is hardest to carry from top lane but if you wanna win try heavy cc teamfights that can carry like kennen

Corporal B1 votes

From looking at your games, one thing stands out to me. My one suggestion would be to really focus on last hitting while making quality trades in the top lane. As a top laner there's really nothing you can do outside of a tp gank to stop anything across the map (not 100% true, but mostly during lane phase). If you're playing carry mages (like you are), you need to be able to stomp in your opponent in lane. Not just in shoving them away from turret, but also kills and more importantly cs.

Having good cs can counterbalance a terrible lane phase. You can have games where you die 10 times in a row, but happen to be 100 cs up because the enemy laner isn't focused on it, bringing you just as even in gold. Having cs keeps you relevant. Learning to trade properly on to the your opponent (when they go for a last hit on a minion) is key to success. (I can recall games where I've been down 7 deaths with no kills and cs the crap out of the enemy and come out ahead in the long run).

If you play a lot of ryze (which he might be on the weak side in his current state) you need to figure out the best times to gank other lanes with you ult. You don't always need to tp gank from top. Learning to roam, fast shove a lane and b (then ult gank), etc. There's a lot of little things you can do. I would suggest watching some streams of higher elo players in the top lane and see what they do.

What I will say with Rumble and Ryze is, play a few games and be as aggressive as you can (expect to lose) that way you can really figure out the potential/power of the character. The best way to learn the potential of any situation is to frankly just do it. If you see the enemy laner use a spell on a minion or miss something on you take advantage of that situation and put your foot down (by showing him you're in control of this lane).

Figuring out those moments where you're in the most likely scenario to win a trade will help in the long run.

TL:DR

Really figure out the potential of your character: tips/tricks/powerspikes/opportunities. Prioritize cs while trading cost effective blows. Be aggressive to learn (expect to lose a few), but then put that knowledge to use.

/edit: Don't give a second thought to teammates flaming you. If there's nothing constructive in the chat, just ignore it. Reading it and letting it affect you can reflect in your play as the game continues. I myself value the mute button.

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