TAHM KENCH: How to Balance

hotarse··2 votes·692 views
  1. Move the passive on the ultimate to the W. Make it so that he only gets additional damage on his auto if someone or something is in his belly! That works thematically so much. When something is in his belly, ally or not, he gets super excited and increases in size and get additional magic damage on his autos.
  2. I love Tahm, probably the only champion from 2015 that I really like. But I have to admit the Q has too much base damage. Lower the base a bit, and increase the scaling a bit. Right now, it is too much of a death sentence on squishy targets.
  3. The ultimate itself. It's not that it's OP. It's that it honestly doesnt get used to its max potential. People dont even seem to realize that they can jump into my mouth when I activate it. I don't like abilities that will only be used to its potential by a small subset of synergyzing mofos. Can we please just admit that this ultimate is a glorified teleport? Can we give it a better use? I sure think so. Make it a shorter ranged teleport that has a shorter channeling time, but that has a small knockup where he pops up. It can be used as a short range initiation tool or it can be used to catch up to running prey. NO ONE CAN JUMP INTO HIM PLEASE!

There you go. I just fixed Tahm Kench for you. If you'd like to hire me for your balance team, please do contact me. I'm extremely interested in the position.

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{quoted} 3. The ultimate itself. It's not that it's OP. It's that it honestly doesnt get used to its max potential. People dont even seem to realize that they can jump into my mouth when I activate it. I don't like abilities that will only be used to its potential by a small subset of synergyzing mofos. Can we please just admit that this ultimate is a glorified teleport? Can we give it a better use? I sure think so. Make it a shorter ranged teleport that has a shorter channeling time, but that has a small knockup where he pops up. It can be used as a short range initiation tool or it can be used to catch up to running prey. NO ONE CAN JUMP INTO HIM PLEASE!

Is ult active is just a teleport (does anyone deny that?)- that is why he has the ult passive. It gives the player a satisfying level 6 power spike like most champions have. As others have said, however, he just needs a nerf to the ratio numbers.

You (and Riot), don't want him to have a initiation tool like you propose. He will just ult straight to your adc and hit them with his Q/basic attacks while they are knocked up, and then eat them.

undesirable team1 votes

just nerf his fuckin health to damage ratio -.-

Nanuk Pihoqahiak1 votes

He simply needs the percent of health to damage on his ultimate curved back a tiny bit. It's silly that he puts a point in it and can suddenly duel most toplaners while building straight tank. It's conceptually wrong that if he builds a Deadman's Plate to fight someone like, say... Riven, he's getting an additional 20 damage per auto + the 20 base damage. And that's for that item alone + just him auto attacking.

I'm too lazy to do the math on average armor values, but he'd be physically autoing for around 80ish and the added on-hit damage is around 40 before MR. This is assuming a rank 1 ultimate. He's doing 120 damage per auto attack. It doesn't sound like much, but that's also not acounting for the level 4 Q base damage (215) and the 20 percent total health regurgitate he may get off in a trade.

Mr Vulcanator1 votes

Tahm is fine and should not be changed.

hotarse1 votes

Coming back to this I'm really disappointed by how they Olaf'd Tahm Kench. Rather than taking power from where he was being obnoxious and moving it into areas that were more fair, they simply tore him down in every area.

Ult passive damage... down Auto Attack range... down tongue hit box width... down movement speed with ally in belly... gone completely shield duration... down

Basically, they made him a shell of his former self. While I truly enjoy playing him, I felt there could have been a lot more interesting and less "nerfy" changes that could've been made, hence why I posted this thread.

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