Enough is Enough Riot

PRKcMakC6a·Feb 3, 2015·6 votes·1,665 views

Alright Riot, here goes, giving no fucks about you because you give no fucks about players trying to do well, playing hard. You give no fucks about low ELO players...like me...I was determined to do better this season. To play hard in ranked, and have fun in norms. And you know what I found, the same ol shit. The same shitty matchmaking. The same shitty players. The same AFK's. You have done NOTHING to curb this problem. Who really gives a fuck about the summoners code when it means nothing as it isn't worth living up to. When you fix the problem of AFK players, and downright bad players, you will have far less players getting upset at other players. It is you Riot, who is causing the problems. It is you Riot causing players to rage at other players. Being outplayed is one thing. Allowing players to queue up in ranked and they don't have 5 wins in normals! But its ok, they bought 15 champs, play ranked! Fucking pathetic. "Leave no noob behind" WHAT A FUCKING JOKE. If they are a noob, they can only get better on their own! I can't play for them. Sure, tips and pointers. So what? All of a sudden, "I got a tip, I'm not a noob anymore, I'ma play ranked! YAH!" And then, because I wanted to climb out low ELO...I still get seeded with them. And because you thought it was a good idea to put even more emphasis on previous ranking, failing to understand how much better a player can get being stuck in low elo, that player can't get himself into a solid position for this season because of dead weight. The only reason that player couldn't get out may be because of terrible matchmaking! I see it all the time. One player, maybe 2 on my team or the other that do consistently well, strong CS, and cant carry a 3 man scrub squad. Especially not in ranked, when it seems that all 5 of the other players have it together. Hey Riot, ever think that maybe, just maybe, actually emphasizing INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE in NORMALS as well as RANKED can allow players to get better seeding. You call it a team game, and that it is. BUT INDIVIDUALS PLAY THE GAME AND INDIVIDUALS MAKE PLAYS IN THE GAME! DUH! So, a real example for you. Recently, I played a provisional game. The ADC failed to reach 100 CS in 28:49! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! In a ranked game, where some players are actually trying to get outa low elo for better competition, there are players that destroy their own team. This to me is unacceptable. And the AFK problem. Sure the game could be lost or won for that matter. And people would abuse the lost prevented and go AFK even though they were already losing. PLAYERS WHO AFK, NEED STRICT HARSH PUNISHMENT in ranked. See this is where I laugh at the hypocritical Riot. "Oh team game, team game"...ok Riot, you say so. Yet, it is an individual leaving, destroying the team. The team more than likely loses a 4v5 ranked game, from which ELO is destroyed. All because of one person. Yet Riot won't put that much weight (the outcome of a game) on one person in game playing very well. So, if one person leaving can decide the outcome of a game, why can't one players performance in a game be weighted more heavily. Why does Riot just say, well you went 5-5 in your provisionals. Doesn't matter that 3 of the 5 losses were due to people leaving. You are still Silver 5. Why would I spend any money on your product, when your product produces shit. The fact is, performance in normals should have a heavier effect on ranking matchmaking. Also, this could eliminate the "try hard" attack as it would be expected to be trying hard in both normals and ranked. And players who play normals who can't achieve, simply can't queue into ranked. Too bad so sad. When they can distinguish themselves in normals, ranked play follows. Then its truly no noob left behind. Because they will no longer be a noob, they will have reached their own goals and joined the pack. By grooming them, you are automatically helping them help themselves without hurting ranked positioning. And more would be expected of them, and everything that "noob" had to go through to get to play ranked would be known. And it would be the same. And people couldn't just say "o u suck" because they had to have a certain skill level just to be there. But you know what? I know this falls on deaf ears. Because Riot, all you really give a fuck about are dollar signs, and image. Not happy players. The game is fun. There is no denying that. But you make it soooooooooo unenjoyable. Riot fail.

25 Comments

Live2LetDieFeb 3, 20153 votes

2 things.

Afks and baddies are impossible to fix, show me one game that solved people going afk.
Looking at your recent match history, you need to improve. 30+min games and your 140 CS? Stop flaming others when you yourself have much improving to do.

PRKcMakC6aFeb 3, 20151 votes

I admitted that I am a low elo player trying to get better. And I also said being outplayed is one thing. I know how I do in games, but thank you for taking the time to look me up. At least you care about what I have said here....actually you just wanted to point out my flaws instead of suggesting ways to get better. GJ. And I also know that an ADC with less than 100 cs at 28:49 is a joke. Games that I have low cs are either because I am trying to help stop getting a lane pushed and have left my lane, was dying to other fed champs, or was a tank (which I am not very good with) And they are not impossible to fix in ranked. You clearly didn't read.

MPendragonFeb 3, 20152 votes

Everyone dislikes this moba. Your point is irrelevant.

PRKcMakC6aFeb 3, 20151 votes

If everyone dislikes...why keep playing? I like the game, it is fun. I like the competition. I even like losing from time to time to better players. When they aren't assholes at least. The game is popular for a reason. It is Riot's obligation to keep the game from turning on the people who enjoy playing it.

MPendragonFeb 4, 20151 votes

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If everyone dislikes...why keep playing? I like the game, it is fun. I like the competition. I even like losing from time to time to better players. When they aren't assholes at least. The game is popular for a reason. It is Riot's obligation to keep the game from turning on the people who enjoy playing it.

Young padawan, there are numerous things you don't know.

People play this game just to piss off other people who play the game, and THAT is why they enjoy playing it.

Pucking PurrfectFeb 3, 20152 votes

Too many cringing in this thread.

PRKcMakC6aFeb 3, 20151 votes

"Cringing in this thread"? WTF are you talking about? What makes you cringe? Do you even know what that word means? And you say "too many" ...who else? have you started a thread asking who is and who is not cringing? SMH. Pretty sure you are the only one cringing....lmfao....You don't cringe IN something, you cringe AT something. So, your education speaks for itself. Ima go to a party "yo, too much cringing up in hurr" LMFAO. you fail kiddo.

Pucking PurrfectFeb 3, 20151 votes

y u heff to be so med kiddo?

PRKcMakC6aFeb 5, 20151 votes

I am not mad guy. Please do not leave some curt comment and think you won't get backlash. Especially a comment that is nonsensical. SMH.

Pucking PurrfectFeb 5, 20151 votes

Ok sir.

JamareeFeb 3, 20151 votes

How exactly will Riot utterly stop AFKs and players who don't do well? How does any game for that matter? Like you are asking for the impossible.

Edit: Also, did you just say Riot pisses on the lower elo people but should piss off the normal casual players instead?

PRKcMakC6aFeb 3, 20151 votes

Piss off casual players? WTF are you talking about? Not what I said at all. Im not talking about afk's battling shitty internet (why are you playing ranked?) Im talking about players who queue up and then leave at start of game (Timmy had a soccer game). Or get owned and just rage quit. If normal draft mode lets say, had a system built into it, in which during the game it could identify your expected CS based on skill/previous history, or some kinda of built in challenge (CS, time to first blood, time to first turret/your turret) and how your individual plays led to objectives, plus your kda, and less emphasis on win and loss, you would qualify to play ranked games. So, if a noob wants to get to ranked, he/she will actually have to try in normal (draft) and do well enough to qualify for certain skill levels in ranked. So because I do well enough I qualified for lets say Silver I. So I jump right into that ranking (literally I choose and select that specific one, even though all options below Silver I are open for me to go into too) So lets say in a normal draft mode, I can consistently get oh I dunno, 80 CS by the 10 min mark. Well, other players that consistently do that are of equal skill level. Lets add in a KDA of 7-3-8 on average.....do you see where I am going with this? Obviously, a support wouldnt have 80 CS...but qualifications/challenges for them can be made as well. Then once in ranked, even that system can be adjusted to really place you amongst players of equal competition. So, just because a player buys 15 champs, they shouldn't be allowed to play ranked. There are players who simply do not have the aptitude to play this game, as sad as that is. But because they aren't even good enough in normal draft mode, they don't even get into ranked. Consider normal draft mode a grooming for ranked. Get good enough in that, enough wins, etc. and you can play ranked. It is kinda redundant to climbing out of low elo, but at least you know as a player, that all of the players there have qualified to be there. And I don't mean qualified as in the way of shitty provisionals, with afk's and baddies....I mean, that you already have proved to be qualified to play ranked (not just by having 15 champs or whatever that bullshit is about..IM QUALIFIED....lmfao good idea Riot). The player has shown they want to move out of normal draft. Because they have shown INDIVIDUALLY, that they have enough INDIVIDUAL skill to even play in ranked.

JamareeFeb 4, 20151 votes

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Piss off casual players? WTF are you talking about? Not what I said at all. Im not talking about afk's battling shitty internet (why are you playing ranked?) Im talking about players who queue up and then leave at start of game (Timmy had a soccer game). Or get owned and just rage quit.

Please explain to me how the system is supposed to know the difference between the two?

If normal draft mode lets say, had a system built into it, in which during the game it could identify your expected CS based on skill/previous history, or some kinda of built in challenge (CS, time to first blood, time to first turret/your turret) and how your individual plays led to objectives, plus your kda, and less emphasis on win and loss, you would qualify to play ranked games. So, if a noob wants to get to ranked, he/she will actually have to try in normal (draft) and do well enough to qualify for certain skill levels in ranked. So because I do well enough I qualified for lets say Silver I. So I jump right into that ranking (literally I choose and select that specific one, even though all options below Silver I are open for me to go into too) So lets say in a normal draft mode, I can consistently get oh I dunno, 80 CS by the 10 min mark. Well, other players that consistently do that are of equal skill level. Lets add in a KDA of 7-3-8 on average.....do you see where I am going with this?

I see what you mean, but at the end of the day, Riot ranks this as a team game, a game where you win and lose as a team. Yes, it is going to be frustating as hell when you do incredibly well and can't/don't get carried for all your hard work. Is it fair to you? No, but the flip side can be said, what if you don't do well in a game, your average is below said normal but you still work hard, ward, keep everyone's spirits up etc? Do they deserved to be punished because they weren't at the top of their game?

So, just because a player buys 15 champs, they shouldn't be allowed to play ranked. There are players who simply do not have the aptitude to play this game, as sad as that is.

Amount of champions is a horrible way to decide if someone is ready for ranked or not. I know people with every champion that are bronze and people with the minimum of sixteen in gold.

The player has shown they want to move out of normal draft. Because they have shown INDIVIDUALLY, that they have enough INDIVIDUAL skill to even play in ranked.

Once again, team game, even if you don't like how Riot does it, that is what they decided.

SaevumFeb 3, 20151 votes

Try paragraphs next time. Its cleaner. Just saying.

PRKcMakC6aFeb 3, 20151 votes

My professors in college say the same thing. Will do.

360D3GR3SSFeb 3, 20151 votes

If you are unsatisfied go try another MOBA, clearly you dislike this one.

PRKcMakC6aFeb 3, 20151 votes

I clearly said I like the game. Clearly, you skipped over that tidbit of info. I have tried other MOBA's. I like LoL. I do not like how Riot fails to address concerns and issues with the game (obviously they do address certain things). They seem to have all of the answers, yet there are countless failed patches. Countless champion kits fail (which is normal and expected, and they do what they can when they can to level the playing field and make the game smooth). That is not what I am talking about. Clearly, either you don't care that the issue exists, which is fine, or you don't experience it. Either way, you commenting on something that is either not affecting you, or not a concern of yours, is kinda sad. So, your suggestion for me to try another MOBA is appreciated, but not contributory in any way. Nice try guy. SMH.

360D3GR3SSFeb 3, 20151 votes

The entire rant you just did disproves you "like" this MOBA...You value the game's producers/player feedback over actual gameplay so go play a game that fits your desires. Helpful tip: Stop trying to sound like you know how to deal with the biggest player base of games in the world because you do not. You come off extremely prideful, arrogant, and rude.

PRKcMakC6aFeb 5, 20151 votes

You really can't stay focused. I am sure you think you know a lot. But if you can't follow, then you don't need to comment. I am not arrogant. I know I can get better at this game, and am not even pretending to be in the realm of the best players. Also, I am acknowledging the fact that LoL does a good job in addressing the issues in game, because they are inevitably going to come up. However, they clearly do not value the frustrations of players who continue to strive to do better, and deserve better teammates. So, again, you have contributed nothing to the topic of conversation. GJ.

360D3GR3SSFeb 5, 20152 votes

You can think you are not arrogant all you want, each response you give only reinforces what I have said previously.

RaptameiFeb 3, 20151 votes

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Envy SinFeb 3, 20151 votes

That wall of rant.

Is you bothered to space it out a little i would have read more of it.

PRKcMakC6aFeb 5, 20151 votes

True. I should edit that.

GummyBearWookieeFeb 5, 20151 votes

You're making little sense on a lot of your arguments. For one normals DO impact your ranking leading into ranked for the first time. It's why one person with 50 normals wins under their belt get placed in Silver 2 and another person with 50 wins under their belt get placed in Bonze 5 even though they both went 3-7 in their placements. You can't have normals effect your ranking AFTER you dive in...because then there's no real territory to try out brand new champs outside of a bot game.

Two...STOP BLAMING OTHER PEOPLE...come on man. Nightblue3 was in his Challenger promos the other day...know what happened...he had 3 AFKers in two games. Crap happens to everyone at every ELO.

You want to get better...stop blaming people. Record your games and post them on here for people to watch. Have us, the community side of this game that aren't just raging teenagers and trolls see how you play the game and point out the areas that you need to SERIOUSLY work on and improve. It's through that that you'll get better. You'll carry those 4v5 AFK games and Feeder games to the point you'll slowly work up.

This stuff ain't instant man...hell you've played TWELVE GAMES! Unless you're two full tiers below where you're supposed to be...and I'm talking Bronze to Gold...not Bronze 5 to Bronze 3...you're not going to just jump up in ranking in a matter of a few games. Get LOLreplays...record your games...post it on the forums in the tips and tricks section or help section...let those on here willing to help actually help. Bitching isn't going to do crap...don't be that guy. The only thing you can do is be the best player you can be. When you accomplish that...the rest won't frickin matter.

You get an AFKer in your game...make a goal. You're playing top lane and your ADC afk...make a goal. "I'm going to ward the crap out of my jungle and turtle under my turret and get 60 CS at 10 mins despite the disadvantage." "I'm going to play safe and work on positioning and escape the game with less than 3 non-gank related deaths" etc. Take some positive out of a crap ass situation. But seriously, SERIOUSLY, just record a game whether you did well or not and post it. You're calling out people as being noobs...but I'm willing to bet if you dissected your game...the areas you need to improve on are more numerous than you can count. And that's not putting you down....everyone is tunnel visioned when it comes to themselves and how they feel they play. Let us help you improve and get rid of the rage.

It's not riot's fault people are dicks...don't be one too and learn how to get past it by relying on others to help you learn.

PRKcMakC6aFeb 8, 20151 votes

You are the only person who has given a comment with actual feedback. TY. Like I said, I know I need improve.and yeh, life happens...holy shit my kitchen is on fire g2g. But barring that, afk players make the game not fun...and lets be honest, higher elo afk = loss (not always, but mostly)

I like your idea of goal setting regardless of the situation. Matter of fact, I have done that. Just played my own game. Most of the time it is just an exercise in waiting for the Nexus to blow due to sloppy teammates. Also, I have learned that certain times when I was blaming other people, regardless of their terrible plays, I wasn't helping by dying due to frustration and bad decision making. So it just made things worse. I have also learned that I can and need to carry sometimes. Period. Thats really just how it is. If you want to climb out, carry the game. I mean, just about any champ can do it if played right. I have played more than 12 games btw. A lot more to put it lightly.

It isn't Riots fault people are dicks. I never said it was. And I don't care about normals anymore. I have already decided that I am going to play ranked only....unless learning a new champ, then one normal or two to get the feel, and then ranked. I like the competition in ranked and better players (mostly). So I find that I actually win more often playing ranked than normals. So that was a big part of my frustration. I was just thinking that there should be a better screening process. And I really don't see how normals would set my ELO. Bc players either try really hard or not in normals..(casual players and the like)...so that would negatively affect another player. Besides, I stopped trying or giving a fuck in normals a long time ago. I just smash buttons. :)

Seriously though, thank you for the feedback. It has allowed me to concede certain things and look forward to others. I have no intention of going pro. ( I am a chemical engineer). I just wish other players would put in the time to understand the game. I think for the most part, my mechanics are the weakest part of my game...meaning really the combos (when, where) I can land abilities and can target (unless its Kat, then i cant even see her) but a lot of players just go head long into fights, towers, etc. and no matter what without fail, we lose when that happens. All I am saying. The leave no noob behind policy of the summoner code is a joke. Getting players better requires a commitment from the player and riot. Riot needs to be the one grooming the noobs before they get into ranked. Just to make sure they 1, dont go in totally blindsided...2, dont annoy other players...3, have enough skill to be there. The provisional shit is done. Time to move on. Need a new system and needed it yesterday...Just like we need a new way to watch the LCS...I mean, have you see that garbage...the picture quality is a joke..I can't tell if its Voli or Braum. Why can't we spectate mode the LCS? BC Riot thas why. Anyway...thanks again...best of luck, or skill rather in your games.