LMFAO RITO

PRKcMakC6a·Feb 15, 2016·2 votes·2,134 views

Ok Riot. You win. A 14 day suspension. All bc I made a comment to a player that they were awful. Truth is, he/she is/was. Maybe the comment was out of line....MAYBE. But let's be honest Riot, your community is FILLED with players far more "toxic." I think it is time for me to say goodbye to LoL. Yeh, I was just B3, nothing special. Nobody is going to miss me, I'm sure there will be a troll on here to say 'good riddance' etc. blah blah blah. Sure I wanted to climb to silver, but that was really my only goal, bc I don't believe that spending the amount of time it takes to be at the diamond level is worth it in life.

And just fyi, the players that just taunt, or "ez" (which I have NEVER said), homophobic slurs, etc. are far more out of line, bc THAT is disrespect, which in your email you talked a lot about respecting players. Calling someone a "try hard" is NOT disrespectful. It is in-game banter which is NOT DISRESPECTFUL! And calling someone awful (if they are making those types of plays) should be shared with them. It is much easier than trying to explain how their build makes no sense, and explain how to have better positioning. They just take offense and say "fuck off" anyway, so whats the point in trying to help a community of players who don't want to help themselves (or THE TEAM for that matter, which Rito prides itself on lmfao) Oh yeh, I don't know what it is with this community, but this is the first place where "you mad bro?," "salt" and many other pathetic forms of instigation have become some norm, which for some reason, people think is just so hilarious...but really reveals that they are losers that care even less about winning and more about making another person feel badly. Sad. And, shows that they really think they are going pro or something, or need to brag to their friends about their rank. SMH

I think it is laughable that LoL tries to call itself a "sport." It is not e-sports. IT IS A GAME. So, e-gaming at BEST. A sport for what, carpal tunnel? I realized that I had become a LoL loser, spending too much time caring about winning meaningless games as there are FAR MORE IMPORTANT things in life. The addictive behavior that the game has created/instilled is great for business sure, but terrible for productivity and socialization (unless your form of socialization is LoL streaming, LAN parties etc.) I'm sure somebody will talk about LoL college Harvard players, blah blah blah....I'm still successful blah blah blah....I have a 4.0 in HS blah blah blah...truth is, there are far more things that ALL (including myself) of these people could be doing for/in society instead of occupying their time with a game that actually MEANS NOTHING LMFAO. Yeh, sure, it's your time, do what you want with it. I graduated with a degree in chemical engineering, and honestly wish I had never been introduced to this game. I will never recommend it to friends/family, nor will I ever allow my kids to play it.

So, wish I could say it was fun, but more than anything I wish I had the accumulated hours spent playing this game back in my life. And anyone with half a brain (good for you if you are a streamer/pro making hundreds of thousands of dollars lol) would realize that there are many other things in life that you could be spending YOUR valuable time on, and not giving it to RITO. Oh yeh, I'm sure they will remove this post real quick.

So thank you Rito for the suspension, I think it was just the thing I needed to realize I had become exactly what I didn't want to be.

Peace.

21 Comments

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 15, 20168 votes

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Awkward CouchFeb 15, 20167 votes

But let's be honest Riot, your community is FILLED with players far more "toxic."

You're right, there probably are more people out there that are more toxic than you, but that doesn't give you the right to be toxic as well.

And just fyi, the players that just taunt, or "ez" (which I have NEVER said), homophobic slurs, etc. are far more out of line, bc THAT is disrespect, which in your email you talked a lot about respecting players. Calling someone a "try hard" is NOT disrespectful. It is in-game banter which is NOT DISRESPECTFUL! And calling someone awful (if they are making those types of plays) should be shared with them. It is much easier than trying to explain how their build makes no sense, and explain how to have better positioning. They just take offense and say "fuck off" anyway, so whats the point in trying to help a community of players who don't want to help themselves (or THE TEAM for that matter, which Rito prides itself on lmfao)

There is nothing wrong with trying to help other players. There is nothing wrong with suggesting other builds. There is something wrong with they way that you're doing it (and as a "person with a degree in chemical engineering" you would be able to figure this out). Saying something like "hey vayne next time I wouldn't build a deathcap" would be fine. Don't say "Vayne build a Bork you dumbass". Not that hard (even for an engineer)

Oh yeh, I don't know what it is with this community, but this is the first place where "you mad bro?," "salt" and many other pathetic forms of instigation have become some norm, which for some reason, people think is just so hilarious...but really reveals that they are losers that care even less about winning and more about making another person feel badly. Sad. And, shows that they really think they are going pro or something, or need to brag to their friends about their rank. SMH

Maybe because it's the most popular MOBA in the world right now? With more players trends are going to catch on quicker, kind of what happened with WOW.

I think it is laughable that LoL tries to call itself a "sport." It is not e-sports. IT IS A GAME. So, e-gaming at BEST. A sport for what, carpal tunnel?

Actually E-Sports have become one of the biggest industries in the past 5 years. The past two years alone, more people watched the League of Legends world championship finals than the Superbowl. Dota 2 has a prize pool of over 10 million dollars last year for their world championship, that was all crowd funded. Even ESPN has an E-Sports section. If you want to make an argument that E-Sports are pointless, so is every single sport. Football (by your line of logic) would be a sport for getting head injuries and concussions.

I realized that I had become a LoL loser, spending too much time caring about winning meaningless games as there are FAR MORE IMPORTANT things in life.

There are more important things in life, and if you can't get your priorities in order, then you should not be playing the game. However, there will always be better things you could be doing with your life. In order for your line of logic to work, you should never be able to have any time off at all. Under your paradigm, you should never watch TV, read non-educational books, watch movies, or even play video games at all.

The addictive behavior that the game has created/instilled is great for business sure, but terrible for productivity and socialization (unless your form of socialization is LoL streaming, LAN parties etc.)

All video games are addictive to someone, your argument is moot. I've actually met sever people in a League game whom I have gotten to know more by using Skype and playing League.

I'm sure somebody will talk about LoL college Harvard players, blah blah blah....I'm still successful blah blah blah....I have a 4.0 in HS blah blah blah...truth is, there are far more things that ALL (including myself) of these people could be doing for/in society instead of occupying their time with a game that actually MEANS NOTHING LMFAO.

You're right, if League consumes your life, you should probably stop playing. It's calling being a responsible adult. I play this game to relax and have fun, and I still do a lot for my community. Doing things for/in society and playing video games are not mutually exclusive.

Yeh, sure, it's your time, do what you want with it. I graduated with a degree in chemical engineering, and honestly wish I had never been introduced to this game. I will never recommend it to friends/family, nor will I ever allow my kids to play it.

I call bull shit. The way that you communicate on the boards, your grammar, and your rage makes me call bull shit. Learn to grow the fuck up and be an adult. I guarantee if you acted the same way that you did in the games that lead up to your 14 day ban to your boss, you would be fired. So because you're online and no one knows who you are or what you do, that just means that you can say and do whatever you want without consequence? Please.

And anyone with half a brain (good for you if you are a streamer/pro making hundreds of thousands of dollars lol) would realize that there are many other things in life that you could be spending YOUR valuable time on, and not giving it to RITO.

I do this to have fun and play with friends. Just because you chose to be an ass and not get the same experience, doesn't mean that's the case for everyone. Learn to grow the fuck up and be the adult that you claim you are.

PRKcMakC6aFeb 16, 20161 votes

I do have a degree in chemical engineering. Sorry to burst your "bull shit bubble." And my grammar is fine thank you. Go find some spelling errors...good luck (btw, I'm not writing a thesis, just casually talking). And at work, it isn't about comments, it's about performance and metrics. So, if I send plans along, and they are wrong, it is incumbent upon me to improve my results or I WILL be fired. And a teammate in LoL is not my boss. So analogy fail. Furthermore, my "rage?" Whoa. Quite an intense word to use for a video game. I think you should look up the definition. And at work, if I have a co-worker that I have had to repeatedly ask for certain documents etc., I will be sure to let them know that their lack of performance is not helping the team. Of course, "awful" isn't a politically correct word in the office...so something more along the lines of, "do you think that the next time I need these, you can have them on time?" It sends a definitive message in the professional world.

I am a responsible adult. Thank you. It doesn't come close to "consuming" my life. LMFAO. It is just full of people that are not pleasant to play with and as with anything that is competitive, emotion can become a factor. Even pro players have been banned and heavily fined for words bc of their emotions. And I am talking specifically about ranked play, not casual norms. Have all the fun you want, I like the more competitive arena. My paradigm? Wow, you are reaching. But, fyi, reading "non-educational books" and I think you meant fiction, is a great way to stimulate creativity and provoke philosophical thought and discussion...the monotony of tower, dragon, baron, tower...etc doesn't. What you do with your time for entertainment, is yours like I said. If you like TV, TV, TV go for it. But, that is a dilemma with society as a whole, and that paradigm of be "lazy and stupid" and "take what we shove down your throat" has been debated thoroughly. LoL is just another way of getting someone entranced in something just like TV. Take what Riot shoves down your throat and like it. It is a business.

And the sports discussion. Man, where do I begin? You really WANT to sound intelligent, but fall just short. According to Oxford, "sport: An activity involving PHYSICAL exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment." And I really hope you are not going to begin to argue that finger clicking is physical activity. You can try, which I can see now, "you are moving digits, so that is physical." Please. It is competition undoubtedly. Not a sport. And football, well, I don't really care for it, but nice try. Yes that aspect of gaming has become recognized. And the DOTA 2 grand prize was $1 M US...not $10 M. Back to the drawing board to get your facts straight.

Look dude, I don't know how old you are or what you do for a living and I really couldn't care less. All I did was thank Riot for making me realize how much time I was wasting (even if it just was 45 min here and there) and that the world has a lot more to offer than LoL in my life and that it is a game that I have no interest in any longer. When you come to realize there are superior ways to enjoy your time and relax, you will say good bye as well, and become the adult you claim to be. Peace.

Awkward CouchFeb 16, 20162 votes

Where to begin, the grammar I'm talking about multiple "..." All throughout your thread. At work, comments do carry consequences. If you don't treat your boss with respect, talk shit about your boss, there are consequences. The whole idea of the analogy is that what you say does carry consequences, you can't say whatever you want.

And the rage I'm referring to is your entire original post. Even the whole " Riot showed me how much time I wasted" is super passive aggressive.

In your next analogy about your coworker analogy, in your analogy you put yourself as the boss. That's the issue here, who exactly put you in charge? Why is it your job to point out others mistakes? If you worded a message in League like you did in your analogy, "next time I need those could you have them on time" you would not have received your ban.

Reading non educational books ( I did mean fiction I could not think of the word at the time) does have the benefit of thinking about philosophy and discussion. The same can be said about league. There are entire podcasts breaking down the game, and they talk about new strategies and how to play X champion. Playing league is thought provoking.

I'm basing your paradigm off your original post, wherein you claim that you could be doing something meaningful with that time. TV and movies also waste time that we could be doing something "meaningful". Under that line of reasoning we would never be able to relax or waste time in any way. Quite frankly I don't agree with that.

As far as the " this is what Riot gives you and shoves it down our throats", the problem with that argument is we can leave. In fact that's exactly what you're doing. You don't like the game so you're leaving. That's the whole idea of letting the free market decide, and with millions of players playing League every day, the market agrees with Riot's decisions.

As far as the e-sports argument goes, the term refers to professional video game playing. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/esports And actually Dota2 prize pool is over 18 million https://www.dota2.com/international/compendium/

For me League is a way that I stay in touch with friends and have a good time. Just because you don't enjoy it, doesn't mean it's an inferior way to spend time.

I'm backing up my arguments with facts and actual research, you're making conjectures here. But hey, nice try for trying to have an intelligent conversation. Also, learn to use paragraphs, my nephews have better sentence structure than you.

PRKcMakC6aFeb 21, 20161 votes

Rage is the antithesis of passive aggressive. Fail. Fact, USA won the DOTA 2 last year? 1 million split 5 ways.

I'm glad your nephews understand paragraph structure.

Quotes are used when using words that are not your own, or for colloquial terms and can be used as often as necessary.

Free-market doesn't really have anything to do with being able to leave LoL. Clearly you do not study business theory.

My teammate on LoL is not my boss...you keep going with that and keep failing. Did I say I was disrespecting my boss at work? And again teammate doesn't equal boss. If I ask my teammate "what are you building?" and they tell me "fuck off" that is really productive. So calling them awful is justified if they are a baddie and refuse to communicate /learn or talk to me like that. Riot punishes retaliation instead of instigation. And btw, asking a co-worker to have deliverables ready on time isn't being their boss. It is being a teammate waiting to move foward. Clearly, your boss is the expo telling you when your table's food is ready. Later scrub.

Awkward CouchFeb 21, 20162 votes

Rage is the antithesis of passive aggressive. Fail

They go hand in hand. For example the undertone of your post is completely a jibe at me with passive agressive tones like this "I'm glad your nephews understand paragraph structure." then followed by "Later scrub". Rage is more than just breaking things, it's how you act and talk.

Free-market doesn't really have anything to do with being able to leave LoL. Clearly you do not study business theory.

Maybe I'm just not understanding the point you are try to make, I was trying to respond to what you said previously:

LoL is just another way of getting someone entranced in something just like TV. Take what Riot shoves down your throat and like it. It is a business.

If you are talking about the psychological hold that video games have on people, that's not something specific to Riot. The same way that people addicted to TV you don't blame a specific channel like NBC.

My teammate on LoL is not my boss...you keep going with that and keep failing. Did I say I was disrespecting my boss at work?

I never said you were disrespecting your boss. What I am saying is that how you say something is is importing as the content of that message. You even said that in your first response to me:

Of course, "awful" isn't a politically correct word in the office...so something more along the lines of, "do you think that the next time I need these, you can have them on time?" It sends a definitive message in the professional world.

Again, if you had worded what you said in game like you did in the quote above, your account would not have been suspended at all. That's the point I'm trying to make.

And again teammate doesn't equal boss. If I ask my teammate "what are you building?" and they tell me "fuck off" that is really productive. So calling them awful is justified if they are a baddie and refuse to communicate /learn or talk to me like that. Riot punishes retaliation instead of instigation.

In this game, we all should be equals. I'm not telling you that your teammates are the boss.

As far as the "fuck off" comments you are getting, they are not in the right either. But that does not mean that you are justified in saying whatever you want to them. If they tell you to fuck off, mute them (because they probably don't have much productive to say) and report after the game. And playing this like Attack Speed Swain (terrible idea don't ever try it) is not punishable.

And you know that Riot punishes retaliation instead of instigation how? Off of this one case? That's not a great sample size.

And btw, asking a co-worker to have deliverables ready on time isn't being their boss. It is being a teammate waiting to move foward.

I probably read between the lines too much and misinterpreted what you meant. For that, I apologize.

Fact, USA won the DOTA 2 last year? 1 million split 5 ways.

Again, you're wrong.

http://kotaku.com/american-team-wins-dota-2-international-takes-home-6-1722961793http://www.dota2.com/international/overview/

The entire prize pool was 18 million dollars, with EG from the US taking home 6.6 million. I have no idea where you're getting your statistics, but they are just incorrect.

JamareeFeb 15, 20165 votes

I don't like the system and think it is subpar to the Tribunal, but everytime I see post like this, just makes me think that the system is indeed working,

LeBraum James GGFeb 15, 20162 votes

These fanboys will defend them, but that guy deserved to be called awful.

Dominick DestineFeb 15, 20162 votes

This guy is on the fast-track to a perma-ban.

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

PRKcMakC6aFeb 16, 20162 votes

Ikr.

Straw Hat LokiMar 30, 20161 votes

He just got perma'd. How did you know?!? /s

alasarcherFeb 15, 20161 votes

Actually its recognized E- SPORT. Its championships and tournaments have way more viewership than many other sports. Its professional players have higher salaries and prize pools than many sports too.

Awkward CouchFeb 15, 20161 votes

It's actually recognized by MLG (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Gaming)

PRKcMakC6aFeb 16, 20161 votes

Wow, you use words like "way more viewership" without any numbers. SMH. Also, you should really do your homework on salaries and income from sponsorship. Nothing more needs to be said here.

Awkward CouchFeb 16, 20164 votes

The player is on the EUW server so English may not be their first language.
http://www.lolesports.com/en_US/articles/worlds-2015-viewership Since you love numbers so much.
Most player saleries aren't avaliable to to the public, however if you want to look at some numbers, Uzi's contract was worth over 7 million dollars http://www.dailydot.com/esports/uzi-transfer-7-million/ so it is conceivable that League of legends players salaries would be comparable to that of probably the NHL.
You lost the right to say "do your homework" when you can't even google the prize pool of Dota 2. You're the one making the clams here without evidence.

GRVet3ran0sSFeb 15, 20161 votes

You don't have to spend a lot time to reach diamond lol. You just need to have a 3 digit IQ

PRKcMakC6aFeb 16, 20161 votes

I have an IQ 0f 133. Thanks.

GRVet3ran0sSFeb 16, 20161 votes

Cool.

NekuDashFeb 21, 20161 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

i hate tryhardsFeb 22, 20161 votes

Tl:dr

anyways...

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No flash no lifeMar 30, 20161 votes

Severity of your speech does not matter. The question is did you step over the line or did you not.

So what if others are bad? Are you perhaps unaware that doing what's correct doesn't mean it's right? Telling a madman to calm down is only going to aggravate him, and telling an idiot that he's stupid is only going to offend him.