Rant about new Duskblade and AP assassins being left out

La Bello··2 votes·1,075 views

The new Duskblade really illustrates how all AP champs have the exact same build regardless of role, and to an extent the vagueness and redundancy of the fighter and mage roles.

I mean Duskblade exists because AD assassins don't have a big ticket item like Deathcap for AP or IF for ADC, but EVERY AP wants deathcap whether they're a utility or siege or combo mage or assassin. AP assassins want their own AP duskblade equivalent, and likewise siege mages would like a big ticket item that synergizes more specifically than them.

Duskblade is also a HUGE fuck up because it's meant for a specific role, but can only be used by half of the champs with that role because it's an AD item. The entire point of Duskblade is that it's damage amplification based on a tiny window of time, helping burst assassins specifically. But since it's an AD item, all AP assassins have to eat shit.

This is either Riot being so single minded they forgot there are AP assassins (nevermind that most mages are burst mages and that AD assassins are capable of moderate sustained damage because of their scaling autos) or Riot admitting defeat and deciding all AP champs are simply "mages" regardless of actual playstyle or function.

Seekers and Haunting guise etc. all build into literally 1 thing, and most of the AP options are either glass or more utility than actually good stats. Theres little to zero defensive AP options, and literally zero AP variation in builds. Theres also the fact that most manaless champs are AD. Akali scales well on it, Shen with Rylais was fucking incredible I dont know why no one built it apparently since riot said "No one builds AP on shen" and these are the ONLY exceptions

this brings me to my next point and that would be THIS item 3089

The problem with Deathcap right now is most mages don't even get the oppurtunity to build it in this meta, especially if you're not Lux or Ahri.

You HAVE to rush seekers at the very least with all the AD midlane cancer prominent, then you finish up your mana item and then have to finish up your stupid expensive Zhonyas just so you don't instantly die to assassins (although they're still going to fucking hurt because if they're even with you they already have enough pen to nullify your Zhonya's Armor with Just Ghostblade/Duskblade or Maw)

Then Void staff would have to be next to pen the MR of the enemy team since everyone and their mother rushes Maw these days. At this point the majority of games are over or already decided. So many things have to go right for a Mage to be able to hit their deathcap spike that they're balanced around, meanwhile Assassins are free to do whatever they want because of their combination of busted kits and objectively superior itemization and price points.

PLEASE RIOT. with the upcoming mid-year mage update PLEASE address this issue.This is going to be your window to add new Items for mages or change around price points PLEASE do something about this.

8 Comments

YossarianSensei2 votes

item 3285item 1402

Best KhaZix Void2 votes

AP itemization is already more diverse and accessable than any other itemization type in the entire game, The reason duskblade was added was because AD assassins were piggybacking entirely on bruiser and ADC itemization. Not only that, but Duskblade as it is right now is complete guttertrash and isn't worth the money that you could be spending on a bloodthirster or scimitar.

this thread is nothing but whiny entitlement.

It's a good thing AP assassins have to eat shit here, they already have access to the best item in the entire game. item 3157

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

Ya dude buff Akali

Best KhaZix Void1 votes

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Ya dude buff Akali

get out of gameplay this is my turf homie _-

nerf rengar

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

Bruh I post here more than you git gud

Hexten2 votes

Delete deathcap.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

I mean...you don't have to rush Seeker's. You could just play safe and not die to them, or beat them (both of which I do). I've kept the same build on Xerath since they released Luden's: Athene's, Luden's, Void Staff, Zhoyna's, and if I end up building it: Deathcap (usually if I'm building this it means my team is losing). Never had a problem with AD laners, be it Yasuo, Talon, or Zed.

I think the only times I have ever delayed my Void Staff are when the enemy bot laner is fed, as they can much more easily get me then an assassin can.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

They have access to item 3285, item 3100 item 3001 as well as the most op item in the game. item 3157 And the second AD assassins who have always been weaker and subpar compared to AP assassins by their mere existence and the void they create by taking the mid slot from magic users, let alone scaling, get a dedicated item for them that isn't even all that greatitem 3147 , you come and complain...? Seriously? Are you for real?

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