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MÖRTIMER·Dec 11, 2015·2 votes·903 views

Okay okay. So before you read anymore, this is not one of those posts that simply bitches about riots decisions. But I'll just get this out of the way. RIOT. THIS IS BY FAR THE WORST REWORK. WORSE THAN SION. Okay. So I see a few things wrong with the new poppy.

Basically her W is useless. Why? because really how many times do you go against a malphite, hecarim, or a champ that dashes. Pretty much all that thing is useful for is the movement speed and MR and DF.. Which isn't that great.
The Damage is nonexistent. She is suppose to be a top laner, yet she unloads her whole kit and the enemy is asking if you just hit him....
This might be a bug, or just terrible mechanics. But her passive prioritizes over all her skill shots. I was in a team fight trying to stun, and my passive came up, and next thing I know I'm having a seizure because poppy cant decide to throw her shield or dash. I tested this out with the rest of her skills and it is the same

On a side note. The visuals are beautiful.

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JamareeDec 11, 20152 votes

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Okay okay. So before you read anymore, this is not one of those posts that simply bitches about riots decisions. But I'll just get this out of the way. RIOT. THIS IS BY FAR THE WORST REWORK. WORSE THAN SION. Okay. So I see a few things wrong with the new poppy.

How exactly was Sion's rework bad?

Basically her W is useless. Why? because really how many times do you go against a malphite, hecarim, or a champ that dashes. Pretty much all that thing is useful for is the movement speed and MR and DF.. Which isn't that great.

...How many games do you play where champions DON'T have mobility? o_o In your last game alone, her W would heavily affect 3 out of the 5 champions you were fighting while all with Rengar getting outright neutered by it if used right.

The Damage is nonexistent. She is suppose to be a top laner, yet she unloads her whole kit and the enemy is asking if you just hit him....

Because she isn't meant to be pure DPS, she is meant to be more a CCer and disrupter then DPS.

This might be a bug, or just terrible mechanics. But her passive prioritizes over all her skill shots. I was in a team fight trying to stun, and my passive came up, and next thing I know I'm having a seizure because poppy cant decide to throw her shield or dash. I tested this out with the rest of her skills and it is the same

This one might be true, not sure yet.

On a side note. The visuals are beautiful.

I agree.

MÖRTIMERDec 11, 20151 votes

Okay, the W blocks dashes. My last game with her ironically had a lot of people with dashes. Bad timing. But you never go against people who's dashes need to be blocked. Its useless. As for the DPS. She has none. She also has no CC.... Her ult is cc yes but its terrible cc which can screw up team fights for your team. Her stun. ONLY CC she even has. So yes, she needs more damage to be a viable champ. The bug thing is true. Try it

JamareeDec 11, 20151 votes

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Okay, the W blocks dashes. My last game with her ironically had a lot of people with dashes. Bad timing. But you never go against people who's dashes need to be blocked. Its useless.

Champions that get stopped by her ulti that I know for sure.

Ahri Akali Alistar Amumu Azir Braum Caitlyn Corki Diana Fiora Gnar Gragas Hecarim Irelia JarvanIV Jax Kalista Khazix Kindred LeeSin Leona Lucian Nautilus Nidalee Pantheon Quinn Renekton Rengar Riven Sejuani Shen Shyvana Thresh Tristana Tryndamere Vayne MonkeyKing XinZhao Yasuo Zac Ziggs

And then there are champions I'm not sure about like

Aatrox Fizz Illaoi Malphite Maokai MasterYi Nocturne

So how is a move that messes with a third of the cast of this game useless? Yeah, it doesn't work on everyone, but for those that it does affect...it HEAVILY fucks them up.

As for the DPS. She has none. She also has no CC.... Her ult is cc yes but its terrible cc which can screw up team fights for your team. Her stun. ONLY CC she even has. So yes, she needs more damage to be a viable champ.

How is removing the ADC from the fight and making it a 4 vs 5 useless?

MÖRTIMERDec 14, 20151 votes

Ahri doesn't dash into the enemy. She dashes around. Akali yes, but how often do we see akali these days. And add the odds of having a poppy in the same game. Odds are way down. Alistar yes, but unless you're playing support poppy you will rarely be countering his dash. Amumu yes. Azir, yes. Except I very highly doubt you will be getting an Azir top, not to mention he won't need to dash into you because he can sit back and poke. Braum, yes, except again, unless you are playing support poppy this won't matter. Caitlyn..... If you count her net as a dash then I question your sources. Corki yes, and yes I will say that could be of use only because of his rework. Otherwise, I think he'd be using that dash to get away. Diana, yes, so what. You have 3 so far? Shall I continue? Im not saying her W can't be used. I'm saying that it was a dumb skill to give her because really how often is it going to be used. I don't like that they gave her a skill that only is usefull in certain situations.

btw.

these are the champs that use there dashes to dash into the enemy. Your list was a bit long.... many dashes are used as escape only or dont go far enough to even be countered by poppys W

QuephaDec 16, 20151 votes

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My last game with her ironically had a lot of people with dashes.

Dash champions are very common because dashes are very strong. It is incredibly rare to see pro players playing a champion without a ton of mobility. Furthermore, Poppy's W serves an important purpose even if there are no dash champions to use it in. MS is important for closing gaps, getting away, or positioning for her abilities.

DryditchDec 16, 20151 votes

Hi. Old Sion main: Still bitter about the loss of my favorite champion.

Sion was DEFINED for me by his ultimate. He strode into battle and fought until he died. His team fought beside him, inspired to keep fighting, healing off his damage. Sion played a style that said "Are you hitting me?" and lifestole every last drop of damage back. He popped his ulti and destroyed towers. So what if he got kited? So what if he got stunned? Something was going to die, and that's the way it was when you picked him.

Now he's this lumbering fuckwad with one thing left of his old kit, and it's his goddamn shield that wasn't useful for anyone who didn't build him AP.

My favorite lifesteal tank is no longer in the game because Riot decided to keep a different part of his kit.

Lord MaliceDec 16, 20152 votes

Have to agree, she almost seems worse than before, less tanky + less damage, the shield is annoyingly almost useful, if it didn't bounce completely away from the champ you're hitting...

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