HERE IS A MESSAGE TO ALL YOU NEW LVL 30 PLAYERS

MÖRTIMER··58 votes·4,507 views

NO... YOU SHOULD NOT PLAY RANKED. NOR ARE YOU READY FOR RANKED. RANKED IS WHERE MOST OF THE TRY HARDS ARE LOCATED. IT IS NOT A GOOD LEARNING ENVIRONMENT FOR THESE REASONS.

  1. YOU WILL MOST LIKELY BE DEAD FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE GAME.
  2. IF YOU ARE NOT DEAD, YOU WILL BE COWERING UNDER TOWER ALL GAME NOT LEARNING ANY GAME MECHANICS OR SKILLS.
  3. YOU WILL MOST LIKELY NOT GET ANY ADVICE BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL FLAME YOU (YES THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BE MAD TOO.)
  4. RANKED IS WHERE YOU ARE EXPECTED TO KNOW YOUR LANE, THE GAME, AND SMALL MECHANICS. IT IS NOT THE TUTORIAL.

RANKED-------------------TUTORIAL: THEY ARE SPELLED COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY

p.s Before all you haters invade the comment section, I just had a lux support that literally admitted to not knowing what she was doing, she just wanted to play ranked because she hit lvl 30 and thought it would be fun. hint* we lost that game due to her feeding jg and bot with her adc.

80 Comments

Meep Man25 votes

That moment when a new Level 30 is better than you

Dankstin5 votes

I have a theory about this. Many new level 30's in Ranked are smurfs trying to start fresh from a normal MMR who are innately better than me because they've climbed way higher than Bronze I, and as far as losing games against said lv 30's, there's nothing I can do about it. I'm completely convinced that if I see a player with only a few wins that has better cs and mechanics than me, due to my experience and the fact that this is my only account, that person is smurfing. I spend too much time practicing technical things for that to not be the case every single time.

Aazzlano1 votes

Depends. My friends introduced me to the game (back in S2), taught me how to play it. They were all Bronze and I think one was Silver. I eventually played solo (in normals, also never duo'd in ranked) instead, learned a lot. Went to Ranked the last few days of the season, had been placed Silver, hit Gold really fast. Hit Diamond the next season (S3). Was in D1 almost Challenger in S3 for hundreds of games. So even as a newer player in Ranked, I was still clearly better than the players in the elo I was placed in, which is why I rose so quickly.

Some players just learn faster than others or have a higher skillcap, and can achieve that quicker, or whatever.

Dankstin18 votes

I support the aim of this post wholeheartedly, but not how it was delivered. Let me expound here.

I have played since Open Beta, on the very day of the dual release of Shaco and Poppy, and I learned of the game's existence from a friend who played it in closed beta. As a person completely new to the MOBA experience, and I didn't even play Starcraft, even just being an avid gamer with a general competitive spirit, I was eager to learn all I could about this game before Ranked became even a thing.

YOU THINK YOU ARE READY, BUT YOU ARE NOWHERE NEAR READY <> You have not played your champion nor champions in your roles enough to understand the importance of knowing specific tidbits of information about different kinds of matchups, how much damage your champion can do when you all-in, when your first power spike is, what a power spike is, technical terms like this, and why you need to know them and how to apply them.

<> Very likely, you don't practice last hitting in bot games, and refuse to do the boring things like this it takes to improve your cs. Read and accept this truth: New players do not gain the gold advantage that experienced players gain because they don't practice last hitting minions. The lane phase and all it entails is much more complex of a monster than you think, and your cs ability is the base of it. If your cs ability isn't very good and your mechanics are, you won't be able to use the micromanagement advantages of being able to cs to help you snowball anyway. I know this sounds like actual homework, but in the end, it's worth the trouble.

<> I tanked my elo down to absolute garbage in Season 1 because my group of friends would constantly do ranked and pigeonhole me into Jungle Amumu - I'm not nor have I ever been good at jungle, and I'm bad at skillshots, but since he's just so tanky, and deals free damage constantly, it's hard to play badly with him. It always has been, but alas, I made the mistake of get this - "Learning every role in-depth through playing ranked" and I haven't even gotten out of Bronze yet. This is from my own unwillingness to accept my mistakes, actively watch my replays, analyze them and really break down what I do wrong in key parts of the game, from extending too far for that one creep, to initiating a teamfight when 2+ of my teammates are clearly OOM or reluctant to commit.

<> Understand that you aren't "stuck in Bronze." Bronze is a community of new and stubborn players who refuse, at some level, to accept their own misgivings and practice what they need to in order to surpass themselves and climb. You aren't in bronze. You are bronze. Whether it's that you play on tilt too much and feed in frustration or other factors, it's likely and I'll go so far as to say it's the main reason that you make up a part of the Bronze division. You may be thinking right now, "What do you know!? You've played since before S1 and you're still effing bronze!" Well you're right to scold and belittle me for this, but you're wrong to ignore what I'm saying just over that fact.

<> Anyone in higher divisions will attest that they admittedly needed to come to certain realizations about their playstyle, game knowledge, decision-making, or some other nuance of their gamplay habits in order to "GIT GUD." You aren't a scrub. Don't see yourself as just "the insert role name here" of your team. You're part of your team, and even though you might be having a bad game and/or your teammates are flaming you over your mistakes, you need to take it with a grain of salt (basically ignore what they're saying) and try to understand why your decisions during a certain situation don't play out the way you had hoped.

<>TL;DR As a new player, you will encounter players who are simply walls of skill you can't climb over due to your lack of experience and game knowledge. If you practice the basics correctly outside of ranked and constantly strive to increase your game knowledge, you'll truly by ready for ranked at a point when your mind tells you, "Hey, stop playing normals. Clearly you're better than this."

JRobin3110 votes

I disagree with the idea that players that just hit level 30 should feel like they can't play in ranked. I think anyone should be able to play ranked games and see where they end up - even if it's at the very bottom. I don't know where this idea of, "I'm not good enough to play ranked games" comes from. I can understand something like, "I'm not good enough to be Silver" or "I'm not good enough to be Gold", but the idea that "I'm so bad I can't even play ranked games at all" is bizarre. And that there are players actively telling other players that they shouldn't play in ranked games is just mind-boggling to me because in my mind this almost the equivalent of telling other players to uninstall the game.

Swooshter3 votes

We have all been new. While some players may have MOBA experience, and even some that might not, can quickly grasp certain things about the game, playing the different champions, even just once each, can give you a good idea of at least what each one can do. It is about knowing the limits of certain champions and how to build them. Heck, even reading the patch notes is needed. While it was just ARAM, I had a KogMaw build a item 3174 yesterday and kept it all game despite me trying to point out to him that it was a support healer/shield item.

Heck, I will freely admit, I had no clue how to build or play champs when I first started. I hated Malzahar because I did not understand to combo his abilities (and each by themselves were pretty weak). I also built horribly because I did not have experience (and this was before I read guides). I built spell vamp items on him too. I built attack speed items on Nasus because I thought with his passive it would make him nearly unkillable. Yes, 1-30 does provide some experience and knowledge, especially if you have played a MOBA before, but it still just scratching the surface when you consider the amount of champions, items and builds.

Dukues1 votes

Well written man. I have mixed emotions about this thread. I understand where the OP is coming from is I have had some new players on my team (at least on my silver 5 alt) that have basically ruined the game because they feed and are so far behind the game turns into a 4v5. On the other hand, when i started playing ranked in season 2 i had like 400-500 normal wins, but still lack a lot of common knowledge. Only through playing ranked did I realize how terrible I was (and wtf jungle and support was). Granted, back then the community seemed more lenient and you did not have to jungle or support until you were level 30. Now you are expected to know that shit from game 1.

Season 3 I was placed into bronze 4 and it made me realize I had a lot to learn. I was so excited to achieve silver a few months later, but it did take actively trying to improve to reach it. Then I was stuck in mid silver for 2 years before I had another "ah ha" moment and realized I was once again the problem. Over the last 4-5 months I feel my knowledge of the game has really grown along with my own acceptance of my faults. This has lead to an increase in my rank and more enjoyment in playing and learning the game.

So.... as much as I hate having new players in games I personally was only able to force myself to start learning the game once I played ranked.

Hildebrand11 votes

Hey, New 30's: Do what you want, this is a F2P game, and no one can tell you what to do, if you learn under pressure, go ahead, just don't expect to be very successful at it.

Icestar118610 votes

Your capslock key seems to be stuck.

Alytrox8 votes

Here is a message for OP :

No new level 30 players is going to register on this forum, until 1). 2). 3). and 4). happens to them.

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

You don't need to register for this forum, it is connected to your account

And there are plenty of sub level 30s here

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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You don't need to register for this forum, it is connected to your account

And there are plenty of sub level 30s here

and pretty much 95% of them are smurfs

Hollowchazz8 votes

Here's a thought, how about you just get out of bronze so you dont end up playing with new lv30s that suck....

MÖRTIMER1 votes

not in bronze buddy

steveplays2664 votes

You're in Silver 5 not that big of a difference.

Joquan3 votes

it's true. x5-y2 is the same for every elo

Hello I am Bird1 votes

But he isn't in bronze.

So he's not wrong [slayer-jinx-wink]

MÖRTIMER1 votes

climbing out of bronze is an accomplishment in as of itself. Don't know why people are always clowning on silvers. But you wouldn't know because your'e still in bronze.

steveplays2663 votes

I'm not saying that reaching silver isn't an accomplishment, I'm not "clowning" on silvers either. My point was just that there is little difference between high bronze and low silver. The fact that I ( a bronze like you felt the need to point out) am matched with silver 5s and 4s fairly regularly shows that. A single win in a placement match could be the difference between bronze 1 and silver 5. There's probably a good number of bronzes who are better than you just like you're probably better than a lot of higher silvers.

But what do I know? I'm still in bronze so I clearly have no idea about anything.

Hollowchazz1 votes

I guess you are right, it took me like 450 games to climb out of bronze (at 250 i lost my promo game for silver, the 5th game and i tilted all the way down to bronze 4) What i did to escape bronze is main support nami in season 3.Her ult is super good for disengaging bad team fights or engaging good team fights.

Oh and high bronze players are better than low silver players. I tilted to low silver this season and the players were so bad that i was able to win lots and climb back up to gold.

Gold 3 is the struggle for me now,

five oh tree 4 votes

I recently ran into a yasuo who was newer to ranked. He was completely obliterated in lane and after lane phase. Many people were flaming him, but he wasn't intentionally feeding; he had honestly just never played with people like ranked players. He said something like, "this keeps happening to me, every ranked game." I believe he also mentioned he had not yet finished his placements. He had also said that whenever he played normals he got 20-30 kills. This in itself speaks a lot about the gap from normals to ranked. Riot should notify players that hit level 30 that ranked is much, much harder.

In my opinion, after you hit level 30, you should play another ~200 games. Even after that, you probably won't be on the same level as many ranked players.

It doesn't matter if you scored a kill on your laner, because he's up 40 farm in 12 minutes and is going to come back with superior items and crush you.

When I first hit level 30, season 3 had just ended. I miraculously ended up winning half of my placements and getting placed in Silver IV. I remember thinking I was hot shit because I wasn't bronze, and I even rubbed this in people's faces. I got absolutely obliterated in ranked and actually stopped playing because I remember thinking that I didn't deserve my rank. I really didn't, either. This was back when it took twice as long to get to 30. I wasn't REALLY ready for ranked until the middle of season 4.

There really needs to be a notification for players that hit level 30. It's literally free LP if one ends up on the enemy team, because they have no idea how to do little things. Wave manipulation? nope. They're just going to shove and get ganked and they won't understand why they went 3/14 in their first game of ranked even though they *dominated their lane.

ChargeItDownMid2 votes

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five oh tree 1 votes

I get that a lot of people are naturally better at games than others, but with the time it takes them to hit level 30 now, I highly doubt they will have the game knowledge to actually move up to gold or plat. Maybe I just picked it up slowly, but it seems a lot of knowledge is actually learned by playing in ranked.

Even if player A's mechanics are better than player B's, if player B knows powerspikes decently well and player A knows nothing of them, Player A doesn't REALLY have an advantage.

DeathTheHorseman1 votes

Man, 200 games after level 30 is too brutal and will penalize smurfs above everyone else.

What you need is a minimum 20 S ranks earned or minimum 5 champs at mastery level 5.

Anything that requires great play as the requirement before going ranked. (getting LVL 5 mastery on a champ is tied to scores in games. If you keep getting B and C you will need A LOT of games)

Could be minimum 50% win rate in normals. _** #P.S. I JUST WANTED TO USE CAPS LIKE OP. I LOVE SHOUTING AT PEOPLE!

Swooshter2 votes

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Man, 200 games after level 30 is too brutal and will penalize smurfs above everyone else.

What you need is a minimum 20 S ranks earned or minimum 5 champs at mastery level 5.

Anything that requires great play as the requirement before going ranked. (getting LVL 5 mastery on a champ is tied to scores in games. If you keep getting B and C you will need A LOT of games)

Could be minimum 50% win rate in normals. _** #P.S. I JUST WANTED TO USE CAPS LIKE OP. I LOVE SHOUTING AT PEOPLE!

I would think the 200 games before playing ranked would actually be a good thing to deter some smurfs

FourVsFive4 votes

isnt that what bronze is about new lvl 30s?

Dealth4 votes

OP is Silver 5 complaining about bad players...

MÖRTIMER2 votes

read the post buddy. Wasn't complaining about bad players. I was simply stating that if you are a new lvl 30 player, don't do ranked cause you arent ready.

Dealth3 votes

At level 30 they are experienced enough with the game to try ranked. They are done "with the basics" at that point. If they end up in Bronze 5, well, there is Bronze 5 for a reason.

Colgate Gator3 votes

I have no idea why fresh 30's think they're ready to play Ranked. Ranked means you have to hold your own weight, that your teammates can depend on you.

When I was a fresh 30 I don't think I even knew how to CS properly yet.

JRobin311 votes

That isn't what ranked means at all. And if you play ranked then you quickly learn that you cannot depend on other players. You may want to be able to depend on them... but if that is what you want, then you should form an actual team. Depending on complete strangers to play the way you want them to play isn't realistic expectation in any queue at any level in any game anywhere.

Sure, you can suggest that new players learn certain things or play more normals before they enter ranked play, but demanding that they know those things and execute them consistently in your ranked games is a pipe dream fantasy. If players had to wait until they perfected everything about LoL before playing a single ranked game, then the ranked queue would be empty because there isn't a single player in the world that is that good. Not even Faker is that good.

Maybe you are thinking, "But I just I think new players should know basic stuff before they play ranked games... like CS properly" Really? And you don't miss CS?

Maybe you are thinking, "Of course I miss CS, but I just think that new players should consistently get a certain minimum CS before they play ranked." That's not what ranked is about. Rank literally means: relative position or standing. It isn't about meeting a certain minimum CS. It is about how well you perform relative to other players in the game. If you don't have the skills, then you shouldn't expect to get a significant rank... but how much you CS isn't an indicator of whether or not you are "ready" to play ranked.

Being ready for ranked play just means having the mentality to handle the ranked environment. I would think the better way to "prepare" players for ranked would be to ask them if they are ready to have their every action in game judged by others. If so, then go for it. If you aren't prepared to have your actions judged, then maybe you should reconsider playing ranked. But hitting a certain minimum CS or playing a certain minimum number of normal games isn't what it takes to be prepared for ranked games.

There is a reason RIOT got rid of the "Unskilled" report category: complaints about other players being unskilled aren't useful.

Eclipse Leona2 votes

+1 for feeding lux. awesome.

but seriously go practice with champs if you got a new one, I always do custom to see what they do, how it feels and what kinda build is best for them (IMO). then I go over to Normals.. and when I feel confident I play ranked with them.

Average Bard2 votes

THIS MAN IS RIGHT, SPAM NORMS UNTIL YOU CAN PLAY A CHAMP SO WELL THAT EVEN THE ENEMY COMPLIMENTS YOU ON YOUR SKILL. ALSO, DON'T MAIN JUST ONE LANE, GET AT LEAST 3 DOWN BEFORE YOU ATTEMPT RANKED. I'M DOING CAPS LOCK BECAUSE OP DID IT.

Athenes Lulu2 votes

Instead of being an asshole about it, you should've given them advice.

You can't win every game, so why not make losing feeling less like shit?

MÖRTIMER2 votes

I actually wasnt an asshole. I gave them advice. I didn't flame at all. THIS POST IS NOT A FLAME TO ALL NEWBIES. IT IS AN INFORMATIVE REQUEST

Athenes Lulu4 votes

Then there's no need for caps, I think bold print would've been so much better and still delivers the same message.

Adding on, tutorials don't really teach anyone anything, as much as we thought they did.

Cpt Jack Bird2 votes

Idk, I keep seeing near-30s that play better than most low silvers......

but I mean, if you win your first couple placements and don't know much then yeah, that can be rough.

Bobloser35553 votes

Smurfs

Weasel Kensei2 votes

Oh wow, you mean some middle gold, low diamond smurfs are using better mechanics than low silvers... who'da thunk it?

Cpt Jack Bird1 votes

Oh, no, the smurfs tends to be better than me and golds and stuff. I mean the level 29s that aren't totally out of their element seem to be about on par with low ranked, which... does not seem to have much of a consistent anything either.

BluePolarizer2 votes

I cannot distinguish ranked and normals anymore.

Zorasama1 votes

In fact, don't play ranked if you don't enjoy playing with a bunch of tryharding people. Because it's not fun at all.

Dankstin1 votes

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In fact, don't play ranked if you don't enjoy playing with a bunch of tryharding people. Because it's not fun at all.

This is an excuse to actively and objectively suck at the game with no repercussions as long as you're having fun, which in that case, your teammates are not.

Zorasama1 votes

Play normal and pick anything I want/anywhere I want is much more fun than pick Top Taric and everyone suddenly type "WTF TROLL REPORT"

Some people doesn't really care if they suck at the game, they just want to have fun m8.

Dankstin2 votes

The game is fun when you first start out. Everything is new and flashy, shiny, funny, cool... but then the need to carry your weight becomes realized and objectives become goals become priorities. Therein lies the issue. Many champions are best at specific roles because they were physically designed for that role. I mean that's not an opinion - it's Riot's machinations at work. Part of the "fun" in League is knowing how to make it fun for your teammates as well, and when you pick radically off-meta things like ADC Soraka or Glass Cannon AP Garen, your team isn't gonna have a good time.

Zorasama1 votes

Most of my teammate in normal blind pick don't really seem to care that much, we talk about random stuff, joke around. So yeah, we're definitely having a good time >.>

LaserDeathBlade1 votes

But why? Just play enough and they'll eventually hit the skill level they're supposed to be at and they'll be fine.

Sucks that you lost that one game, but that Lux's 'placement' games make up a pretty small proportion of her actual games played and is a necessary part of the matchmaking system.

ApollyonBainer2 votes

It's not fair for your team though...

LaserDeathBlade1 votes

It's perfectly fair

Someone going through their placements is just as likely to be on the other team, and overall the number of players in placements is pretty small compared to regular games.

ApollyonBainer2 votes

I suppose that is true... But even still it the same as any SR game. By level 30 they should know what they're doing, at least well enough to not throw a game by themselves. I don't care if you're new to ranked. But by that point you should know the game well enough to compete in higher caliber ranked games. Just because someone is in bronze doesn't mean they don't have to care about their ranked games.It's unfair to those who do care

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