Laners please let your jungler last hit scuttle crab.

Naomi CoffeeGoat··152 votes·5,918 views

It's extremely annoying when I'm taking the crab and they decide they want it for themselves. You're denying your jungler the 80ish gold they get while you only receive 50 gold. It's way more important for your jungler to last hit scuttles than you.

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Verxint19 votes

As a jungler, I've had scutty buddy stolen too many times cause teammates were trying to donate it. objective control > 30 extra gold

Bouffon dAnglais5 votes

Struggle Crab

Toa of Death1 votes

Scuttle Butt.

Virgin Ray15 votes

And denying sated dev

The Yetii Rider32 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kenji Chang,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AJb3EAVM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-10-05T14:03:35.749+0000)

And denying sated dev

Actually Riot fixed Sated so you get charges if you kill or assist monsters, so it's not a problem if your laner steals your crab, you still get 2 stacks.

RedCyclone8 votes

I had no idea about this Was always on edge when I do scuttle near a team mate, still the extra 30 gold is enough for people not to rice your scuttle

Virgin Ray3 votes

OH MY GOD! RLY? NO MORE WASTE SMITE!!!!!!

DrCyanide1 votes

Yup, same goes for Blue and Red so you can gift them and still stack.

Dar Raksada1 votes

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Yup, same goes for Blue and Red so you can gift them and still stack.

wasn't this only for dragon/baron? It still annoys me when I play Sion jungle though.

DrCyanide1 votes

From the patch notes with the change:

Second, we've also updated the way this thing builds stacks in the first place. A simple change is that Devourer builds on monster takedowns (assists or kills), rather than just kills, so you don't feel bad when you give away that blue buff, or when Kalista secures the Dragon with a mega-Rend. Also, speaking of Dragon, we're really trying to incentivize Devourer junglers to focus on contested jungle objectives, like the Rift Scuttler or Dragon, as it gets them out into the sunlight (can't be playing League all day) while also giving enemies clear ways to slow your Devouring roll.

LARGE MONSTERS 1 stack per kill ⇒ 1 stack per takedown (kill or assist) EPIC MONSTERS 1 stack per kill ⇒ 5 stacks per takedown CHAMPIONS 2 stacks per takedown ⇒ 1 stack per takedown RIFT SCUTTLER 1 stack per kill ⇒ 2 stacks per takedown

As you can see, their example calls out by name giving away blue, but the code itself is all generic and about the takedown (kill or assist).

Dar Raksada1 votes

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From the patch notes with the change:

As you can see, their example calls out by name giving away blue, but the code itself is all generic and about the takedown (kill or assist).

I stand corrected.

Though you still shouldn't lasthit it away from your sion.

Kürama1 votes

No, this is only on Red & Blue buffs (Brambleback & Blue Sentinel). All other jungle monsters do not grant stacks your teammate last hits them.

EddardStark843 votes

No, it works on scuttle too.

Kürama1 votes

When was this implemented?

NemeBro6 votes

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It's extremely annoying when I'm taking the crab and they decide they want it for themselves. You're denying your jungler the 80ish gold they get while you only receive 50 gold. It's way more important for your jungler to last hit scuttles than you.

Nasus It's more important for me.

Naomi CoffeeGoat5 votes

Bad Nasus. Go back to top lane and farm a portal.

Planeswalker CB2 votes

Umm kill your siege minions and leave scuttles to your jg plz man

Mimy4 votes

I normally leave scuttle to them but if they're at the top jungle and we need vision on that dragon now because everyone is level 8 and people are starting to want it.. I'll take it.

Ignis06 votes

As a jg main I allow stuff like that. But I think OP here means when the jg is taking it and someone just decides to last hit it.

3tyson4 votes

i honestly dont care about it unles im getting a sated

if your getting sated anny form of camps your team is taking rather its your jungle or even the enemy jungle feels slightly anoyed since you could have get stacks there

even worse when your suport took smite and decited to smite dragon lol

Lost In Time9 votes

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even worse when your suport took smite and decited to smite dragon lol

You don't need to last hit to get Sated stacks.

If you read it, it says you gain stacks upon takedowns, which are kills and assists, even on monsters. So as long as you damage it once, you get the stacks.

3tyson2 votes

r u sure i kind of feel like that only counts on champs assists helping my mid lane get blue buff wont get me a stack will it ?

Xhader1 votes

You'll get a stack for it, even if you donate it.

And as far as I know assist rules still apply though, so you need to hit it within 15 sec of takedown. Not entirely sure about this part, but I haven't seen anything to the contrary

3tyson1 votes

thats good to know i usualy get anoyed as fuck when i see people farming my jg when im a sated jungler if i see this happen now il just go in for an assits and idgaf about the gold cause getting sated is what ur afther usualy when playing a sated one

btw isnt this kind of broken i mean you could sort of adc vayne get devourer and than just get an assist on drag and crap and braab 7 stacks if you roam and kil some people your only gonne get more and more stacks and its gonne get sated eventualy

Guyy Fieri2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lost In Time,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AJb3EAVM,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-10-05T14:21:16.085+0000)

You don't need to last hit to get Sated stacks.

If you read it, it says you gain stacks upon takedowns, which are kills and assists, even on monsters. So as long as you damage it once, you get the stacks.

I think that only works on dragon...the other camps (like buffs) the jungler has to last hit it to get te stack

canpan144 votes

It works on buffs and scuttle also.

Guyy Fieri1 votes

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It works on buffs and scuttle also.

I'll have to check on it...last time I used sated (keeping in mind I don't play a lot of jungle) I thought it didn't so maybe it changed since or I just didn't read close enough

DrCyanide3 votes

You must not have read close enough when they made the change, because they specifically pointed out you could gift your buffs and still get stacks.

Dracobalt1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lost In Time,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AJb3EAVM,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-10-05T14:21:16.085+0000)

You don't need to last hit to get Sated stacks.

If you read it, it says you gain stacks upon takedowns, which are kills and assists, even on monsters. So as long as you damage it once, you get the stacks.

^ someone who reads!! OMG FINALLY LOL I was reading above and going down...was like...don't people know that the gold is lost yes but you can still get stacks if you hit it...assists DO give you stacks. Personally tested with buddies to prove to them that they got stacks even if they didn't actually kill it. They just need to damage it before it dies of course.

Maximum Morde3 votes

Dat crab is mine bro.

SavingPirateRyan3 votes

But I'm the carry. Your sole job as jungler is to get me fed. I know I'm 0/7/0 but with a little farm I'm sure it'll all be fine. If I'm not fed and carrying we'll surely lose.

Planeswalker CB2 votes

You dont always have to be the person "carrying" the team. Like ive said before this is a team game so if you fall THAT far behind (which you should have played a LOT safer if you did) act as a support for your team.

SavingPirateRyan3 votes

That was sarcasm.

ScarehJew2 votes

Preach

Worst Syndra NA2 votes

OH HOW TEH TABLES HAVE TURNED! Who's complaining about tax now?? :I

Hard Penetrator2 votes

Veigar Sorry babe, I can't hear you over the sound of my ap stacking. ~ Proceeds to pulverise cute scuttle crab with Dark Matter~

Zhugan1 votes

80 gold on a jungler is less value than 50 gold on a mid/adc, and arguably a top laner. Even if the jungler is stacking sated.

Naomi CoffeeGoat8 votes

Except when you take into account the laners are cramming minions down their throats and average much higher cs if the jungler doesn't heavily tax their lanes. And you take into account junglers spend their time ganking and making their presence in other lanes. That's less time they spend farming and has been almost a completely wasted opportunity if they don't even blow a summoner spell from a gank.

Zhugan2 votes

You talk about junglers ganking, when more than half the time they are in the jungle farming up devourer. Doesn't exactly promote warm feelings towards the jungler when their presence isn't a presence.

Naomi CoffeeGoat6 votes

It's as if there aren't three other jungle enchants.

Zhugan2 votes

With warrior as a stand out exception (thanks Lee Sin/Vi), Devourer is the most used jungle enchant. A person can reasonable expect to see it in ~20-30% of their games, and the play pattern it creates is toxic as hell.

My original statement was hyperbolic, but that doesn't mean that the idea behind it isn't legitimate, nor does it mean that the 50 gold is of more value on ADC/Mid/Top than a jungler. I'd rather my ADC had IE or BotRK sooner, or my mid had Hat/Zhonya's sooner, or my Top had a second/third tank item sooner. Than, what? The jungler needs to finish their locket a little sooner?

Planeswalker CB3 votes

How about your jungler finishing their boots faster than your 50 gold to a 2nd item so they can gank more efficiently. This is a team game which means you having 50 gold instead of your jg having 80 gold means your down 30 gold and every little bit adds up. Ever check out the graph of gold advantage after a game? it starts out 30-100 gold ahead. Then the numbers get more drastic:** Remember, team game,** share the wealth! item 3401

HisbeautifulMOM1 votes

I JUST WANT MY JG LEAVE MY CRAB ALONG CAUSE THEY ALWAYS USE SMITEsummoner 11 TO STEAL IT AND SAYS NOOOPE :X THATS FKING MAKEME MAD

Furor Nexis1 votes

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I JUST WANT MY JG LEAVE MY CRAB ALONG CAUSE THEY ALWAYS USE SMITEsummoner 11 TO STEAL IT AND SAYS NOOOPE :X THATS FKING MAKEME MAD

Wait who the hell wastes a smite on Scuttle? I understand if you want to get a fast ward but it's easy as hell to get the Scuttles down.

Akesgeroth1 votes

I just love people who refuse to ever jungle then throw a bitch fit because the enemy jungler is ganking their lane while their jungler isn't. While they're standing under the enemy tower.

Call A Dr1 votes

Never mind the scarab, my team mostly take my frog, like if bot is coming from town, and im owning the shit out of the frog, cait, or whoever will poke it and take it for themselves, now that hurts.

Silents4291 votes

I usually give it to the support, or the jungler gives it to me when I support.

DrinkMoreWhiskey1 votes

Stealing skuttle crab from my jungler is a guilty pleasure of mine. Buhahahhaha

Chuck Charles1 votes

You know you are salty af when you are upset over carries on your own team taking 60-90 gold away from you once every minute and a half. If that

Doctor Dyment1 votes

Always let my jungler take the Crab if they are attacking it. Unless I know the guy and want to do it for the laughs over Skype.

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