You know I really love Tryndamere's design.

Naomi CoffeeGoat·Sep 15, 2016·103 votes·5,013 views

Just kidding it's fucking cancer and just as bad as Yasuo. It's fucking annoying as all hell that a champ can feed his ass off and make so many mistakes can put himself back in the game just by afk farming and constantly split pushing. If you send someone that isn't fed chances are he'll outduel you if you weren't the one who beat his ass. If you don't have hard CC he'll spin away, wasting the efforts of your team to try and stop him. No doubt he'll have already hit the tower a few times and he'll just be back to spin + shiv to instantly clear waves. This champ needs to be up there on reworks or needs his wave clear nerfed. I'm sick of doing well against him and having the lead I made rendered pointless because he can just split push constantly without any real threat.

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dapositivevikingSep 15, 201650 votes

i feel that tryndamere is telling of what a good melee glass cannon is. with how people complain about yasuo and ekko bruiser builds, why hasnt trynd been doing that? he has free ad, free crits, sustain that would work well with stacking resistancss, and a dash, AND can use fervor effectively, but he still builds glass cannon and i think that shows that no matter how people view him as cancer he's still doing what riot intended from him and thats pretty cool

WimbledofySep 15, 20163 votes

i play him ap bruiser :P

dapositivevikingSep 16, 20163 votes

and look! you can play him effectively off meta too! #tryndamerebestchamp

JacknifeSep 16, 201629 votes

Well I mean... kinda? You're forgetting the big thing that separate Tryndemere from yasuo and ekko; Crowd Control. Besides a slow that lasts ungodly long, that's all tryndamere has. Yasuo? Knock-ups for days (that don't give two shits for tenacity). Ekko? Slows on his Q, slows every 3rd hit on his passive, and a conditional stun on his W, all of which he can kinda chain together if played right. Even if Trynd went a bruiser build, he has almost no way to keep people in place, so he'd be uselessly running after people hoping that his next hit crits so he can keep the spin-dashes going.

Besides, his ultimate kinda goes down in usefulness if he went bruiser or tank. It's like the same deal with old poppy and her ult. You get a number of seconds for free where enemy damage doesn't matter. Even for all the defense mechanism's in Ekko and Yasuo kits, enemy damage still matters (hell, Ekko's ult scales on enemy damage). For trynd, It'd be much more useful to be a glass cannon and wipe as many enemy players out as you can in that time-frame, than to be bruiser and be able to face-tank all the damage that doesn't matter, all the while not doing as much damage as you could be.

It's not that people aren't choosing to go bruiser on Tryndamere , it's that as complicated as the game is now, his kit just can't support it.

DeathBurstSep 16, 20168 votes

That was his point: Trynda's kit doesn't allow him to go bruiser, so he's not really as cancer as OP is arguing, compared to Ekko or Yasuo.

RalanrSep 16, 20162 votes

Oh no he's still cancer, it's just that he functions as intended. It's just his intended function has not evolved healthily in the game.

The dude offers little counter play, stat checks you, and is the living incarnation of RN Jesus.

His ult is the most frustrating part of his kit, and it's also the only thing that allows him to do his job without suffering from glass cannon because his ult isn't as useful if he isn't doing much damage.

So yeah his design prevents tank item abuse, and in a sad way that's great. But it's honestly kinda sad that the best example of a melee ADC functioning without building defenses is because of that fucking ult.

I haven't fought him in a long time, but I really can't understand why people will support an invulnerable stat checking splitpusher as "healthy" or "not cancer"

Edit: oh you said not as cancer. Sorry for the rant, I just don't like Tryndamere's kit.

DeathBurstSep 19, 20161 votes

Edit: oh you said not as cancer. Sorry for the rant, I just don't like Tryndamere's kit.

No problem ;) I can understand the feeling.

MelledoneusSep 16, 201611 votes

Yeah meanwhile Yasuo is virtually unkiteable, has one of the strongest, if not THE strongest levels 1 and 2, and he scales into an insane hyper carry even if he builds 100% crit and frozen mallet with lifesteal.

But sure, let's complain about the guy who can be shut down with 1 Morgana Q instead of the guy who can dodge 5 of them with a single button, or just say "nope" by pressing W to summon the might nope wall of nope.

KingnewgameplusSep 16, 20161 votes

Personally I think strongest lvl 1 is lee and strongest lvl 2 is lb but yas is up there.

dapositivevikingSep 16, 20167 votes

are we forgetting faker 1v1'ing with olaf level 1

crippler38Sep 16, 20165 votes

we all know olaf's level 0 is unstoppable with his incredible attack speed.

PB4UAMESep 16, 20162 votes

Olaf Undertow reset is the highest consistent DPS of any champion at level 1.

AFK PushSep 16, 20167 votes

Olaf has the strongest lvl 1 hands down.

Edit: strongest lvl 1 of all melees

AdriqnoheeSep 16, 20163 votes

Olaf has the best level 1 and Trundle has the best level 2.

JunkοSep 16, 20163 votes

The reason Tryndamere is not built as a tank is because why would you build Tryndamere like a tank?

Your ultimate makes you unkillable for like 5 seconds. As a tank you cannot do anything during those 5 seconds. As a glass cannon you can probably 2 hit 1 or 2 people.

dapositivevikingSep 17, 20162 votes

exactly, by giving the champ a window of power like that to incentivize glass cannon

Wind WhistlerSep 16, 20162 votes

Agreed. Trydamere might be cancer, but he's at least better designed cancer.

CasterGilgameshSep 16, 20168 votes

you have to admit for cancer he sure is hot http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/8/81/Tryndamere_OriginalSkin_Ch.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110221164656 just look at that body

MorgManBasherSep 16, 20165 votes

He's annoying at best, not really worth complaining about. He generally makes the game a constantly 4 vs 5 where you try to "hold the gates" while he does his thing. He also has a million things that sht all over him in lane and make his life miserable.

Yes he's annoying even when you shit on him if the game drags on, but that means you need to do something and not sit around with the lead you have. Finish the game, take objectives, go to other lanes and take their towers, or stay in your lane and push to the nexus but do something other than farm kills and CS or eventually he'll be the split push annoyance.

God King AatroxSep 15, 20164 votes

i legit destroy tryndamere as Aatrox . If he wants to splitpush, i'll just take his towers, it's not like he can 1v1 me once i rush item 3143 item 3047 . Also if you're having that much issues with him you can negate his damage by summoner 3

adidasSep 16, 20164 votes

i remember i had like 370 armor as darius? He melted me in about 2-3 seconds..

i was like wtf...

GULAG 4 USep 16, 201612 votes

Tryndamere is a melee carry, and like every single other melee carry, they deal the highest amount of damage in the game because they're melee and they go full damage, why are you surprised?

adidasSep 16, 201623 votes

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Tryndamere is a melee carry, and like every single other melee carry, they deal the highest amount of damage in the game because they're melee and they go full damage, why are you surprised?

because armor is a thing but its nonexistent sometimes

GULAG 4 USep 16, 20165 votes

Except it's a melee carry's job to shitstop anything in their way.

Armor is worth shit vs tryndamere, don't bother 1v1ing him unless you're jax.

adidasSep 16, 201617 votes

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Except it's a melee carry's job to shitstop anything in their way.

Armor is worth shit vs tryndamere, don't bother 1v1ing him unless you're jax.

and its a tanks job... to tank

lol

5000000000000000Sep 16, 201611 votes

Darius should be fighting the backline, not tank.

adidasSep 16, 20165 votes

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Darius should be fighting the backline, not tank.

Bruisers arent supposed to be in your backline. Thats why every bruiser/tank doesnt have an effecient way of actually getting there.

Darius and illaoi are perfect examples. Not one can simply ''dash'' to your backline

GULAG 4 USep 16, 20167 votes

Darius isn't even a bruiser, he's a juggernaut.

HateDaddySep 16, 20167 votes

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Darius isn't even a bruiser, he's a juggernaut.

A juggernaut is a subclass of a bruiser/fighter

GULAG 4 USep 16, 20167 votes

You don't tank a melee carry. You just don't.

RikoZerameSep 16, 20169 votes

Rammus OK. ;_;

GULAG 4 USep 16, 20162 votes

Okay that's the exception, its rammy's job to do that ;-;

PermabannedGarenSep 16, 20161 votes

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and its a tanks job... to tank

lol

It's a tank's job to soak up CC in team fights, use his own CC to lock down the enemy team, peel for his carries, zone the enemy team with the threat of their CC, etc.

It is not a tank's job to mindlessly withstand the damage of a champion whose purpose is to be able to deal strong DPS to anyone.

adidasSep 16, 20161 votes

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It's a tank's job to soak up CC in team fights, use his own CC to lock down the enemy team, peel for his carries, zone the enemy team with the threat of their CC, etc.

It is not a tank's job to mindlessly withstand the damage of a champion whose purpose is to be able to deal strong DPS to anyone.

''tank's job to soak up CC in team fights''

Which means tank.

PermabannedGarenSep 16, 20165 votes

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''tank's job to soak up CC in team fights''

Which means tank.

Tryndamere doesn't have any CC to soak, and his build and kit enable him to deal heavy DPS to tanks.

What is your problem?

NyanzaSep 16, 20162 votes

Darius typically gets rekt by Tryndamere .

Tychusfindlay919Sep 16, 20162 votes

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typically gets rekt by .

If the darius is a total tard then yes. It's all about whether or not darius uses apprehend correctly.

Worst case scenario darius has an infinitely better teamfight and he can 5 man run it down mid. Trynd can either try to outsplit push or try to help his team hold the 5 man off.

Ok sure but whySep 15, 20163 votes

1v5? no problem for four seconds

Naomi CoffeeGoatSep 15, 20168 votes

It's not even that. That's mostly if he's fed as hell. I can stomp him in lane and he still remains one of the most useful members on the team just by pressuring your objectives nonstop. The only thing that can really put a stop to him is having all his lanes feeding so you have the manpower to keep him off your shit.

Ok sure but whySep 15, 20162 votes

i can stomp him too

darius v trynd

winning 5/0

he gets 6

it's all over

TheOvermindSep 16, 20162 votes

If you are retarded and rush a black cleaver , yes .

Ok sure but whySep 16, 20162 votes

as darius, trynd either ults to victory or ults to safety, since he has so much more mobility than poor darius

TheOvermindSep 16, 20162 votes

Do u know what denying is ??? Darius is stronger early . ESPECIALLY IF he rushes armor. Abuse that . Keep him away from farm. Also darius bleed kind of shits on tryndamere ult. ( if he tries to escape ) I also use ignite which makes me all the more dangerous in lane and denies any escapes with his ult.

Tychusfindlay919Sep 16, 20162 votes

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Do u know what denying is ??? Darius is stronger early . ESPECIALLY IF he rushes armor. Abuse that . Keep him away from farm. Also darius bleed kind of shits on tryndamere ult. ( if he tries to escape ) I also use ignite which makes me all the more dangerous in lane and denies any escapes with his ult.

Not sure why this guy got downovted, darius passive has a very real chance of killing trynd after his ult is done. The passive lasts for five seconds. A reapplication of darius passive right before trynd's ult finishes can be lethal even if he dashes away

DoktorKaiserSep 16, 20162 votes

Because he actually has a bad laning phase (one of the worst in the game actually), he actually has to get items to do some damage, I mean I am not saying he doesnt need a rework, but to compare him with Yasuo who has 0 weaknesses except for player being bad or making mistakes is just dumb. Trynd has clear extreme counters and is a ticking timebomb as are some other champs, so I dk why you are complaining (again, I agree his gameplay is toxic and he needs rework, but he is UP if anything)...

JhomasTeffersonSep 16, 20164 votes

Yas has a fair amount of counterplay.

PB4UAMESep 16, 20162 votes

Counter play =/= weakness; read what he wrote, not what you want to strawman.

Hi Im LupxelSep 16, 20162 votes

Funny, cause I die to Trynda at level 1 in a 1vs1... nice bad laning phase

AmetDeCryptSep 16, 20162 votes

I dunno, I kind of like ekko. I think he's overtuned and would be really cool if he could build more like diana and less like leblanc so his utility would synnergise better with his kit and some of his situational uberburst could be trimmed down. we need more sustained damage ap bruisers.

ElishevaSep 17, 20162 votes

I mean... If a trynda feeds all game, and you can't outdeul him, that's pure incompetence on your end, not poor champion design. It really isn't hard to kite him out untill he's LITERALLY one auto from dead after his ultimate, or, worst cast scenario, 2-3 autos from dead.