It's still a difficult ability to avoid when playing against decent players (who can E->Flash) but it shouldn't have the aoe of a Malphite ult.
https://i.gyazo.com/a05193356b909121e3d60c872e8540a4.mp4
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koshkyra15 votesThat title though
The Ender Cobra13 votes10/10 title though
FTFY
Spoofghoul44 votesAnd don't forget about it taking priority over every other cc ability
you use alistar Q? nah gragas fucks u over even though you cast first
That plus the sion ult size hitbox makes his flash engage completely retarded
And that's why he has always been there in pro play i can guarantee it It has 0 counterplay
Ralanr6 votesAnd don't forget about it taking priority over every other cc ability
you use alistar Q? nah gragas fucks u over even though you cast first
That plus the sion ult size hitbox makes his flash engage completely retarded
And that's why he has always been there in pro play i can guarantee it It has 0 counterplay
In my experience, it's that the second cast hard CC overrides other hard CC if it's being sent by the enemy champion's body (like 
E). I'd be less annoyed with this if Gragas's knock back wasn't something you could caste as if you had the fastest hands in the west.
The speed Gragas can move is nuts.
Dynamia2 votesYou guys just need to get better. You're blaming other people for your own failures. Learn to look at yourselves and analyze what you are doing wrong rather than making excuses.
Ralanr29 votesYou guys just need to get better. You're blaming other people for your own failures. Learn to look at yourselves and analyze what you are doing wrong rather than making excuses.
Ok, 1 that doesn't mean we can't complain. We can analyze the situation and adapt just fine. I do it all the time when I know I have to fight a Vayne because I know how to counter build her. Doesn't mean I can't find her annoying.
2, the hitbox in the video does seem rather nuts. Riot has a history of odd hitboxes, but sometimes they really get out of hand.
And 3, relating to point 1, I have adapted to 
's knock back when I play champions like Poppy. Namely in that I make sure it's on cooldown before I try to stun him. That does not mean I can't be annoyed or complain about the ability.
Points 1 and 3 are basically the same because people are allowed to complain and debate on a forum. That's what forums are basically for. So thanks for reminding me something I already know and providing nothing else helpful to the actual discussion.
Dynamia1 votesJust another case of denial. You can't admit you're making mistakes so you blame others but when you do well you take all the credit for yourself saying it was just you.
Typical bullshit bias.
Ralanr31 votesJust another case of denial. You can't admit you're making mistakes so you blame others but when you do well you take all the credit for yourself saying it was just you.
I was going to argue but then I saw this point. Are you actually serious right now because no one has shown this in the actual discussion. I feel you're just trying to annoy people to get a reaction, which might explain why you spammed that exact same post across a few threads in a short time frame.
Typical bullshit bias.
See, now I'm sure you're just trying to annoy people.
Ravenous Howls2 votesIn my experience, it's that the second cast hard CC overrides other hard CC if it's being sent by the enemy champion's body (like
The speed Gragas can move is nuts.
are you trying to imply large men can't move fast?! =P
Ralanr2 votesNo, I know acrofatic is a very big trope with Gragas. Just feels nuts sometimes.
Ravenous Howls2 votesNo, I know acrofatic is a very big trope with Gragas. Just feels nuts sometimes.
LOL! Just yanking your chain m8. He often feels inescapable due to how outrageous his hit boxes are though.
Asayake 5150glow1 votesIn my experience, it's that the second cast hard CC overrides other hard CC if it's being sent by the enemy champion's body (like
The speed Gragas can move is nuts.
No, displacements and instant displacements take priority over other hard CC. I guess most of them are displacements, but for example Camille E and Gragas E will both stop Quinn E, even though Quinn E is usually cast second. Not sure about Poppy, but I think Quinn stops her E because Quinn gets a small displacement on her E. Alistar's is because his is delayed (I think). He goes into them and then hits them back, while Gragas hits them from further away, because of the shitbox, when he knocks you up, he hasn't actually hit you with his model yet thus your CC hasn't actually hit him yet.
My Waifu Vanilla1 votesIt's the fact that I am pretty sure the only thing that takes priority over Grag E IS Grag E. Camille E? Grag E wins. Vi Q? Grag E wins. If Gragas E is up it is physically impossible to use a charge-like ability at him because he can turn around and E like 1 second after you and just stun you and keep walking away.
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It's the fact that I am pretty sure the only thing that takes priority over Grag E IS Grag E. Camille E? Grag E wins. Vi Q? Grag E wins. If Gragas E is up it is physically impossible to use a charge-like ability at him because he can turn around and E like 1 second after you and just stun you and keep walking away.
Personally o think it's because Gragas's E has a bigger hitbox than his actual model, so his E hits you before your dash would. It's pretty bs.
Rand0mH3r0X1 votesI remember pre-RW Poppy would get her charge canceled by anything, including flash, dash, any other CC, Side stepping so that her model doesn't hit your boot line.
Nami Want Salami13 votesAre you calling him fat.
Celebrimborr8 votesI would like to request some nude pictures
Lawd Dawg1 votesLol people still asking this person for nudes when clearly he/she/attack helicopter hasn't given any out at all
Celebrimborr1 votesAre you sure? I could be looking at them right now and you would never know.
Bouncemaster Zac11 votesFun fact: the hitbox extends behind him. Seems pretty op until you are the Gragas and you try to use E to escape only to be bodyblocked by a guy a full character model behind you.
Dynamia2 votes[deleted]
PeponiPoro9 votesI am curious as to your end goal with your acidic comments.
Dynamia1 votesIt's a bit acidic but we get this lots from you guys so whatever. Maybe treat us better even though we're a lower elo. Our opinions are just as valid as yours.
Sqkerg10 votesDon't categorize all high elo players, and DEFINITELY don't speak for all low elo players.
Beast Brawler4 votesAm low elo player, and while he categorizes high elo players I've had many people completely discount my opinion just because I was low elo, even though I was right.
Disembark3 votesThey probably thought they were right too/that you were wrong.
It was just easier for them to dismiss you for being low elo than explaining or arguing.
Succubús GF3 votesI cringed so hard because I showed a diamond player a statistic and proved them wrong and got told to "get good and stay in silver" Ah the life on the internetsssss
Miraweave1 votesIt's a bit acidic but we get this lots from you guys so whatever. Maybe treat us better even though we're a lower elo. Our opinions are just as valid as yours.
Low elos should learn to stop back talking diamond 1s or higher. If someone from bronze has an opinion that differs from a diamond 1's, the bronzie should NOT try to reason with the high elo. He shouldn't ask why either. He should take what the diamond says as fact without talking back. Too many times, I've seen a bronzie backtalk a diamond 1, and it's disgusting, because the bronzie is wrong most of the time. The only time a bronzie is right is when 500,000 bronzies are talking back to a single diamond 1. There's a reason why you're stuck in bronze. It's because you think differently than the diamonds. Start thinking like a diamond.
leona4lyfe2 votesGiven how free flowing the knowledge of this game is on the internet. I would honestly say that the gap between Bronze and Diamond has shrunk considerably. I know Bronze and Silver (I'm one of them) who have beaten Diamonds and Platinums in lane and won the game.
Guess what? The only difference in this game is knowledge and now that knowledge has become so widespread because of the internet Bronze players have a larger potential of acquiring the talents and skill Diamonds possess.
The game is flattening out in the learning curve.
Miraweave1 votesGiven how free flowing the knowledge of this game is on the internet. I would honestly say that the gap between Bronze and Diamond has shrunk considerably. I know Bronze and Silver (I'm one of them) who have beaten Diamonds and Platinums in lane and won the game.
Guess what? The only difference in this game is knowledge and now that knowledge has become so widespread because of the internet Bronze players have a larger potential of acquiring the talents and skill Diamonds possess.
The game is flattening out in the learning curve.
Low elos should learn to stop back talking diamond 1s or higher. If someone from bronze has an opinion that differs from a diamond 1's, the bronzie should NOT try to reason with the high elo. He shouldn't ask why either. He should take what the diamond says as fact without talking back. Too many times, I've seen a bronzie backtalk a diamond 1, and it's disgusting, because the bronzie is wrong most of the time. The only time a bronzie is right is when 500,000 bronzies are talking back to a single diamond 1. There's a reason why you're stuck in bronze. It's because you think differently than the diamonds. Start thinking like a diamond.
Hello I am Bird2 voteswtf why did you just copy paste the same thing again. THIS ISN'T DISCUSSION AND ITS HAPPENED LIKE 3 TIMES ON THIS SINGLE POST OML
Squey2 votesi remember finding this out by attempting to flash over his body slam. I still died
2Crippled2Carry9 votesYo Grag so fat he hits his enemies even when he misses them
Disembark2 votesNothing compared to your mom though.
2Crippled2Carry2 votesWell, my mom isn't fat at all so yea you are right.
arghilost2 votesYou guys just need to get better. You're blaming other people for your own failures. Learn to look at yourselves and analyze what you are doing wrong rather than making excuses.
Sinlaire8 votesdamn. you're right. I should be practicing to predict a a Flash+body slam combo to escape with my dash on 
within the .3 seconds it takes to happen.
oh wait. he doesn't have one. which means unless i counter flash within a third of a second i get cheesed by a monster hit box for being within range. supposing i have it off cooldown.
so how about some constructive criticism other than "polish your bronze" for dealing with an oppressive mechanic with little counter play. Last i checked even faker still gets killed so its not like you can just say "i'll just never get hit by it because i got gud." stable that high horse and lets have a talk shall we.
leona4lyfe1 votesUm. That's your champion's flaw. Xerath gets caught in everyone's cc.
WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE.
Sinlaire2 votesyeah. and the point is that, that's the point. The guy I responded to essentially said, "dont be bad and get hit". But what kind of response is that? Half of the champion pool has no mobility skills to evade abilities like this. And while that isn't a problem due to their kit being geared toward that being an intended weakness, Gragas retains the ability to use flash to extend the range or even correct the skill being missed.
Which means standard predictions and manually running out of the way doesn't even apply to this particular ability because it can make a 90* turn in .1 seconds due to flash WHILE retaining the ridiculous hit box the OP demonstrated. Body Slam on gragas is a short range, linear skill shot ability that has a travel distance speed. Anyone that can get themselves out of range or around the dashed ability has utilized the abilities standard and intended counter play. Gragas overcomes this intended counter play by being able to freely use flash to change the angle, range, and speed of the skillshot at will. This may come at the cost of the summoner spell, but it removes the skills intended counter plays in return for often being able to net a kill. also, as i'll say again, bearing this hit box.
It's an intended flaw, being removed to exploit an enemies intended flaw, while being really generous about it. which makes it very overbearing.
leona4lyfe1 votesaw
Hello I am Bird16 votesWhat the... I'm not crazy, they just copy pasted the same thing right?
You guys just need to get better. You're blaming other people for your own failures. Learn to look at yourselves and analyze what you are doing wrong rather than making excuses.
You guys just need to get better. You're blaming other people for your own failures. Learn to look at yourselves and analyze what you are doing wrong rather than making excuses.
PeponiPoro3 votesWhat in ternation?
Romtheguy2 votesJudging by the 1st guy responding to ArghILost, it's very likely an alt account of his. I'm pretty sure using 2+ accounts to fake a conversation is probably a sin in forum posting somewhere.
AMYS GRAVE5 votesAlso up above, ...
Dynamia (NA)
DO.
YOU.
NOT.
SEE.
THE.
SHOCK.
WAVES?
Because that's what's hitting you. Like fuck.
HE'S DESIGNED THAT WAY. The stupidity.
and
leona4lyfe (NA)
DO.
YOU.
NOT.
SEE.
THE.
SHOCK.
WAVES?
One man, three accounts, boosting his upvote count and trying to give himself credibility.
Sad.
InivtesPreeze1 votesCareful, asking why gets your comments deleted when the OP cries about it.
