Nocturne ulti damage used to deal 150/300/450 damage

KONO RUBICK DA·Aug 18, 2015·6 votes·727 views

Nerfed to 150/250/350 damage

meanwhile vi has 150/300/450 damage on her ulti while having also a bigger scaling (1.4 AD against 1.3 for nocturne)

Buff nocturne to have it deal again 150/300/450

16 Comments

Karen KujoAug 18, 20157 votes

Then let Vi ult to have the range of Nocturne's.

Oh wait, they are different champions

KONO RUBICK DAAug 19, 20151 votes

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Then let Vi ult to have the range of Nocturne's.

Oh wait, they are different champions

i don't understand this concluision. I just showed you that vi had more tools than nocturne, why are you telling me to give her nocturne range ulti?

btw, their job is still the same: dive into the enemy ADC, why vi should have an adventage to that buy having more damage and scaling AND a suppression?

IpolsAug 19, 20151 votes

Nocturne does it with a better range and giving darnkess everywhere, Vi does it stunning and doing more dmg. If you want to give the same dmg to Noc's, you could use the same reasoning to ask Vi's R to become semi-global

IpolsAug 19, 20153 votes

exactly what I was writing.

DIFFERENT CHAMPIONS guys, it's like sayng:

"Nunu Ult has a huge AP ratio meanwhile Bard ult doesn't do dmg at all"

5000000000000000Aug 19, 20151 votes

They're both AoE abilities. What do you mean it's not a fair comparison? Also, Jinx ultimate should be targetted, not skillshot.

IpolsAug 19, 20151 votes

How didn't I think of Jinx ? for sure it should!

KONO RUBICK DAAug 19, 20151 votes

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exactly what I was writing.

DIFFERENT CHAMPIONS guys, it's like sayng:

"Nunu Ult has a huge AP ratio meanwhile Bard ult doesn't do dmg at all"

because they are 2 spells with 2 differents goals, nunu ulti in order to apply aoe as/ms slow+ damage. Bard ulti is done to engage a fight and set up combo.

Nocturne and vi both dash on the carry and try to kill him, the thing is that vi has more damage and i never saw a nocturne managing to kill an ADC in the backline unlike vi.

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Nocturne does it with a better range and giving darnkess everywhere, Vi does it stunning and doing more dmg. If you want to give the same dmg to Noc's, you could use the same reasoning to ask Vi's R to become semi-global

why do you want vi ulti to be semi global if she has already more tools than nocturne like i said?

nocturne darkness is useless, it's just here to make "oh i made the map in dark", seriously it gives you 0 adventage doesn't go through banshee and only lasts 4 seconds, what do you want to do in 4 seconds? meanwhile vi dashes: -suppress the target -deals decent damage -knock back+75% damage to enemies she passes through

and well, the cooldown is shorter than nocturne ulti.

1000angrybeesAug 18, 20154 votes

Vi: needs to be near the enemy? does a lot, I admit.

Nocturne: Global range for initial cast, reducing vision immensely. Second cast has huge range allowing for ridiculous clean up or ganks.

better buff that damage.

KONO RUBICK DAAug 18, 20154 votes

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Vi: needs to be near the enemy? does a lot, I admit.

Nocturne: Global range for initial cast, reducing vision immensely. Second cast has huge range allowing for ridiculous clean up or ganks.

better buff that damage.

better buff that damage at lvl 11 and 16 where ganks are finished and every team start to be together. Rdiculous clean up? i don't think so rofl, in order to clean up he needs the vision. by the way, vi needs to be near the enemy? her ulti range is 800 and sight vision is 1000. she also has a 1.25 seconds suppression+ knock up

Crowe StalkerAug 18, 20151 votes

Also can't stop her unless you kill her @.@ her scalings let her build Bruiser no trouble while Nocturne pays for anything more than two tank items.

GroundRuleDoubleAug 18, 20152 votes

Nocturne's ult was broken in half when it had the larger range and higher damage. They needed to tone it down. Noc is still in a very good place. He's just underrated.

68636949_DELAug 18, 20151 votes

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KONO RUBICK DAAug 18, 20154 votes

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Nocturne ult is overpowered and needs nerfs. G&B is so bad.

as expected from a riven player

McSatanAug 19, 20151 votes

Nocturne has plenty of damage. If you want to buff him, buff him in a different place.

KONO RUBICK DAAug 19, 20151 votes

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Nocturne has plenty of damage. If you want to buff him, buff him in a different place.

alright boy, let's compare him to some champions

nocturne Q+R damage: 240+0.75 bonus AD, R like i said 350+1.3 bonus AD vi: Q 300+1.6 bonus AD, ulti 450+1.4 bonus AD j4: 250+1.2 bonus AD on his Q and 450+1.5 bonus AD