How to add champ select kicking without abuse

Shroom Junkie··2 votes·215 views

Okay, so, I've seen many threads about champ select kicking, and them being punished, and many responses to that about how it could be abused. And I agree, it could be. A team of 4 could get pissed at one guy for taking an off-meta champ, or taking the lane someone else wanted, and kicking them and them getting punished for no reason, or heck, just people get pissed at someone taking an off-meta champ.

But why not just make it like bans?

Basically, if you get kicked from one champ select, it doesn't matter. Then, there could be a bunch of configurations for after. So like, get kicked the game after and you get a punishment as if you had dodged, then the third as if you dodged twice, maybe if you got kicked, then one you didn't get kicked(dodged, if played it could reset maybe?), then get kicked the game after maybe half the time of a normal dodge? Or maybe just the same thing, as if you dodged.

And just kind of do that. That way it rarely gets abused and for the most part stops champ select trolls. Or maybe 3 votes if there are any duo queues there and 4 otherwise

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Linthe2 votes

I am absolutely NOT trolling. You apparently don't see the possible abuse in this or you just don't care. Sure, you can come up with cases where this makes sense. But this is rife for abuse.. And as I said.. will never be implemented. NO WAY do I want get punished because I get in a game and the other 4 insist I play Leona instead of Morg.

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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I am absolutely NOT trolling. You apparently don't see the possible abuse in this or you just don't care. Sure, you can come up with cases where this makes sense. But this is rife for abuse.. And as I said.. will never be implemented. NO WAY do I want get punished because I get in a game and the other 4 insist I play Leona instead of Morg.

What do you mean? With this, unless you were unlucky and got 2 groups of people like that, you probably aren't going to be punished for taking Leona over Morg. Maybe some other off-meta picks, like Bard jungle or something, but let's be honest, unless its draft or blind and you're just trying to have fun, there's no reason to go Bard jungle. Its weak compared to other champs that could go jungle and he's better suited as a support anyway. However I do agree there could be abuse against people using stuff like Wukong mid who just isn't very popular, but I personally think 1000 people(just as an example, obviously) being punished for picking off-meta or something is better than 100,000 people(again, example) having to dodge because someone in their select is a jerk or a troll.

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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Linthe1 votes

Another horrendous idea.... that thankfully won't get implemented. Kicking/banning people for the champs they select?? Holy mackerel....

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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Another horrendous idea.... that thankfully won't get implemented. Kicking/banning people for the champs they select?? Holy mackerel....

I'm pretty sure you're trolling, but if you actually don't understand me, I mean kicking people for an example like this:

HiImBob is first pick, Dave142 is second, jriajf4wi is third, xXJuggerNautXx is fourth, Best Fiddle NA is fifth. So everyone starts calling their preferred lanes, making jokes and communing, talking about in-game strategy and picking champs based on the team comp at that time and the enemy team comp. But then, xXJuggerNautXx comes and says "I called mid" even though HiImBob took mid as the first pick, and locks in his mid laner and says he's going mid no matter what, and if they don't give it to him he'll feed. So now, even though it was an amazing team, one that could probably win if xXJuggerNautXx listened to the pick order, the entire game is ruined. Now either someone has to dodge, or the game will most likely be lost. And obviously xXJuggerNautXx isn't going to dodge because he doesn't care to win, else he wouldn't risk locking in a position that wasn't his.

So now Dave142 is paranoid. Its his promos and he's going to probably lose, but he'd rather waste his time for the chance of winning than lose his promos. So he decides not to dodge. Jriajf4wi says he's a smurf so he doesn't care, and Best Fiddle NA says he can carry despite xXJuggerNautXx. But HiImBob doesn't think it will even be fun, even if they do win, so now he has to dodge and lose LP plus wait to get into a new match which might possibly be the same way and now he has to dodge again, losing even more LP and having to wait 15 minutes because two people were selfish and didn't listen to the pick order.

So, to fix this, HiImBob, Dave142, jriajf4wi, and Best Fiddle NA can all vote to kick xXJuggerNautXx so that they don't lose and LP, and rather xXJuggerNautXx gets a point in his punishment record, and then HiImBob can go on to the next queue and if he again gets someone, maybe xXJuggerNautXx again, he can vote to dodge. Now if it is xXJuggerNautXx or someone who was punished the queue before, they'll now be banned for a period and lose LP of their own.

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