Is Elise too broken for buffs?

darkdill·Nov 4, 2014·3 votes·875 views

Elise seems to be in a horrible state and Riot knows it, but they won't buff her?

Is she in one of those "broken kit, buffs impossible without rework" states like Diana or Fiora?

13 Comments

PrinceOfStormsNov 4, 20142 votes

They could revert Elise to release state. Then Elise wouldn't be underpowered.

darkdillNov 4, 20141 votes

I'm sure Riot would say "No, we hate that state".

EndlessSorcererNov 4, 20141 votes

They are probably waiting to see how the jungle overhaul and mastery changes affect everyone before releasing any significant buffs or nerfs.

darkdillNov 4, 20141 votes

Too long. For one, Elise's Rappel is bugged at maximum range, but they won't fix that.

EndlessSorcererNov 4, 20141 votes

The jungle overhaul and mastery changes should be released around November 11th, which is next week...

Smokey JoeNov 4, 20141 votes

The jungle overhaul and mastery changes should be released around November 11th, which is next week...

The new jungle may not be released with the new rift (still a few things that have yet to be tested on the PBE) I think what we'll get on live will be something similar to the current rift with the VU but JG update may be delayed im not 100% though all I know is that i haven't been able to test out Zz'rot portal yet cause it's not on the PBE yet.

Sightless66Nov 4, 20141 votes

They're not likely to be released then. That's just when the current season ends. There could still be another patch before the preseason changes come out.

The MormonatorNov 4, 20141 votes

I feel like because Elise has so much %Health damage. They really don't want to touch that.

UPfreelyNov 4, 20141 votes

elise is still really strong why do you want to buff her? so she can 100-0 people as a tank again?

NuSix3Nov 4, 20141 votes

She's in a very weird state. Her early game is incredibly good. Especially in the current meta with gankking junglers, she's able to clear fast with very minimal loss of HP and gank as soon as she finishes her second buff -- and most of the time (this is coming from someone who is not a great player by any means) I know if I land a snare it's going to, at the very least, force the enemy to B if not die.

Her mid - late game is very weird since she's not a great tank but is basically forced to build tank and her cool-downs are too high to really count on her as a great support. Truth is, in a game where people use the term, "KS," Elise becomes less and less effective. Her Q is too good and if your team doesn't want you executing kills in team fights you basically just become a petty distraction that dies a lot. At least that's how it feels when I play. I'm sure there are better players out there who have a different take on her effectiveness.

YoellaNov 4, 20141 votes

Wait Fiora is broken? I've been kicking ass as her all week!

O Fallen ScholarNov 4, 20141 votes

Elise seems to be in a horrible state and Riot knows it, but they won't buff her?

Is she in one of those "broken kit, buffs impossible without rework" states like Diana or Fiora?

Elise is a fine champion. She doesn't need buffs.

Elise just doesn't really fit into current metagame. Because her core jungle items got "nerfed" and she's not tanky anymore. She is a very item dependant