She's been allowed to be the Garen of ADCs for months now, is there nothing we can do?
I am losing faith slightly since Lucian is #2 and he just received buffs to sell skins...
but seriously is anything coming? or do we just face an anti fun lane every time it's not picked or banned?
Bisaknosp6 votesi'd rather see dark harvest removed this shit reminds me of feral flare meta which also was cancer af
The Ginger Ninga2 votesDark harvest is fine tbh. You give up other keystone options for very limited windows of power. Now you can argue that the other keystones aren't as powerful anymore cough electrocute cough but that is another issue. It forces junglers to be aggressive with their ganks due to the 20 second window while also letting laners have an obvious window of power when the cannons die.
Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votesLimited power??
Early game the Empowered AA lasts 20 seconds and is able to received every second wave or kill secured. That's not a 'limited' window. That's a widely available window.
Don't even get me started on buffs availability to Junglers.
Not too mention that the buff time is increased to 300 SECONDS once you collect a mere 150 souls. (Which is not very many may I remind you when one cannon wave and one champion gives you 10 by itself.)
MLDzXnRRR5 votesShe is a free kill all game for any assassin or fighter with a gapclose. Yasuo - the most popular champ (at least in normal blind pick), not as popular in ranked (because of bans, or being hard countered by Annie, Malza or whatever) is a hard counter making her useless. If anything they should remove dark harvest and free crits (stormrazor) and bonus damage from duskblade, while balancing AD assassins.
The Dreamwalker5 votesI disagree with this post. Miss Fortune isn't the problem it is the fact that she synergizes extremely with her items. She trades her high damage for the fact that has very little in mobility (she has no dashes or blinks - League description of mobility). Miss Fortune can only run fast until she takes damage. Also, Miss Fortune is easily caught out. If she starts ulting, she is putting herself in a bad position because she is completely immobile... and her ult is cancelled by any sort of hard cc that can interrupt.
Her E does no damage as AD MF. Her W is only a speed boost to her autos / movement speed.
Her R does damage only based on the AD she builds. She has no base damage on her ultimate. She only does damage based on the AD she has. So, if MF is behind then her ult is weak.
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I disagree with this post. Miss Fortune isn't the problem it is the fact that she synergizes extremely with her items. She trades her high damage for the fact that has very little in mobility (she has no dashes or blinks - League description of mobility). Miss Fortune can only run fast until she takes damage. Also, Miss Fortune is easily caught out. If she starts ulting, she is putting herself in a bad position because she is completely immobile... and her ult is cancelled by any sort of hard cc that can interrupt.
Her E does no damage as AD MF. Her W is only a speed boost to her autos / movement speed.
Her R does damage only based on the AD she builds. She has no base damage on her ultimate. She only does damage based on the AD she has. So, if MF is behind then her ult is weak.
I am not really surprised an MF main disagrees tbh, and of course she synergizes well with items, she is an auto attack only champion like tryndamere or garen but ranged with an OP ult, also like garen and tryndamere, for how easy she is to play she shouldn't also be a stat check wall that becomes disgusting with aggressive CC supports
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I am not really surprised an MF main disagrees tbh, and of course she synergizes well with items, she is an auto attack only champion like tryndamere or garen but ranged with an OP ult, also like garen and tryndamere, for how easy she is to play she shouldn't also be a stat check wall that becomes disgusting with aggressive CC supports
I disagree with the post as a MF main because I understand the champion. Miss Fortune isn't really an auto attack champion actually. She is more an AD mage (or just an AD caster), well depending on the version of Miss Fortune you play. Lethal MF is more of a AD caster (which takes strength out of her autos), while critical MF takes strength out of her abilities and puts it into her autos.
Her ultimate isn't really OP. Broken down this ability can get really terrible really fast. The main thing here is that unlike all (or most) ultimate abilities this one does not have a base damage. It only scales with her current AD (or total). If she is behind, then her ult will be behind in strength as well. Also, her ultimate immobilizes her and is cancelled if she moves, or gets interrupted. Also, any champion with a dash or blink can either jump onto her or just dash out of the ult. The other thing is again just how 
works with her ult. She rends armor everytime a wave hits just because of this item.
The thing with supports is just synergy. MF is aggro + aggro support is going to be good. If you really think about MF, she is like 
and here is why. has tons of burst, but once that burst is down she has to wait and reset. 
is the same because if she blows her load on someone (ult primarily here) she just has her Q (and possible DH stack).
Also, jumps who catch Miss Fortune can really ruin her day. MF is just better against enemy ranged people, but people like 
can really mess up MF. Just my thoughts. C:
Beatrice falls4 votesShe's got a legendary skin, better keep her popular lmao
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She's got a legendary skin, better keep her popular lmao
it's just getting out of control how long she's been able to be so strong with no effort put into playing her
The Dreamwalker4 votesUltimate*
Fallenhawk4 votesThere better ADC the MF that could use nerf first I say she fine as is (could be bit bias ) tell me what you think is "OP" with her other then she does to much damage .
Relia Fortune4 votesShe doesn't need nerfs, lethality does. She is literally useless if any bruiser jumps on her. I literally go 
bot vs her and smash her the entire game. She suffers from divers and is terrible at dueling.
Also maybe nerfing dark harvest cause it is a problematic rune. The minute someone gets a lead with harvest there is barely any counterplay to it. Full tank 
one shotting everyone cause harvest. Also 
run it cause electrocute got gutted for burst essentially. That's why MF can feel oppressive since it's her best rune. You get 
and literally start one shotting. Fun gameplay mechanic riot.
Captainn Ginyu3 votesfor the "garen of adc's" i really dont see her as often as i see jhin and kai'sai
saltran1 votesMF pickrate is always lower to other adcs, right now 
27.6% 
26.5% 
23.2% 
17.5%
16.7% 
12.7% all have higher pickrate than 11.5%
Even with MF being really strong she cant reach the pickrate that others adcs get when they are strong, guess her kit is not as appealing as others adcs kits or something.
mack91122 votesI think it's far more that certain keystone's synergize with her too well
TrikzterzArma2 votesI think it's far more that certain keystone's synergize with her too well
No, she deals stupid damage even without the keystones
Dat Kat2 votesNah, she's not a problem. Atleast not as much when you put her on the same page as .
Even so, I do believe most of the marksmen's problem mainly come from the lack of balance in the items themselves.
Snowdrift1 votesWhat you don’t have fun constantly having to worry about getting too close to your minions for her to chunk half your hp once she has a lethality item? I swear sometimes the second q is random (yes I know it prioritizes targets with her passive prior to the q; but it has gone in very weird directions to hit me even when she hasn’t auto’d me) and it feels really bad to lane against. If you don’t have an all in lockdown support it’s twice as frustrating.
Mighty Mortein1 votesWhat baffles me is the fact that you get Dark Harvest stacks from your own siege minions. Like why?
F Ù Ń1 votes:^) lEtS nErF aZiR, zOe, aNd AnY pIcK tHaT tAkEs SkIlL aNd BuFf ThE cRaP oUtTa No-SkIlL cHaMpS cAuSe WhY nOt [zombie-brand-mindblown]
fillesten4 votesImplying that Zoe before the nerfs took skill [sg-lux-2]
Blyted1 votesBut she's gotta carry about the big ol' thangs.......surely that is disadvantage enough.
GentlemanTrap1 votesSo, just cuz shes a bully early she needs nerfs? She relies heavily on how the laning phase goes and unless you have a decent team comp she falls off late w/o her ult(which is quite often in soloQ given ppl pick all kinds of stuff).
RAT IN GAME UwU 1 votesSo, just cuz shes a bully early she needs nerfs? She relies heavily on how the laning phase goes and unless you have a decent team comp she falls off late w/o her ult(which is quite often in soloQ given ppl pick all kinds of stuff).
she is the garen of adcs, she can literally E Q R you and if you don't have flash and she's even with you you die past like 1.5-2 items
i'm aware bruisers can kill her but either other adcs need to be brought up to her strength and mind numbing ease of play or she needs to be toned down
Inkling Commando1 votesyou misspelled