there was literally NOTHING wrong with Kai'sa's damage.

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Then she goes and get hotfixed and now she has a disgusting damage output

She actually had the damage output that every champion SHOULD HAVE. You know the kind that allows both teams to fight back?

If that thing even remotely catches you 'isolated' you may as well stand still.

Your balance team has such a problem with Zoe doing her job, but ADCs have been doing this amount of damage for HOW LONG?

Why is it you have such a problem with mages 1 shot-ing people, but ADCs get to do it with 1-2 items? item 3031 item 3087

Why do adcs get the most reliable damage source while doing nothing for it?

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YuGiHo4 votes

well the problem is even if u think her damage is ok, most adc output way more damage with the same items or less in a shorter time frame. and since riot isnt going to collectively nerf ever adc and adc items all in one patch she needs a buff

nelogis1 votes

So it's better to make her a problem than to actually take care of the core problem?

Just because it's easier doesn't mean it's the better choice.

YuGiHo1 votes

thats not what im saying. Im saying as much as adc's and their items may need nerfs riot is not going to just hit them all at once. the miracle balance patch does not exist. the game is what it is and its not changing anytime soon.

nelogis1 votes

oh no I didn't want to imply that you think that but said it more as a general thought / argument.

On the other hand they said that they WOULD look into this ADC thing around 8.12.

So that miracle balance patch might exist somewhere in the future.

Though they are known to fuck up a lot lately:

Duskblade fiasco Ardent meta 7.21 Galio 8.2 Nunu Support item fiasco Rune change fiesta Still not done with the rune change fiesta Reverting 3 failed reworks Snowballing in general Bot lane impact Jungle presence

I kind of fear this "everyone can go Bot" fiasco that is going to happen where you see 5 ADCs vs 5 ADCs in every game and then the "sorry we can't change too much because LCS is starting soon" followed by the "the preseason will fix it guys don't worry" ending with the "mid season 9 we are going to look into it guys just be patient"

SmashinBob1 votes

That is quite untrue why zoe is nerfed, and nothing to do with adc. Zoe is nerfed cause her kit is overpowered, its simple as that, a long range poke champ shouldnt have both mobility, short cds and instakill potentional. If you compare to other mages like lux, velkoz etc that have long range, they can instakill squishes on their combo, but they all have a weakness of low mobility and cooldowns to play around. While zoe just doesnt have any of those weakness, she has extremely high mobility and very short cds.

Also Kaisa is pretty bad even after the hotfix anyways, if you have issues playing against kaisa, you are really not playing this game properly.

Call Me Nana1 votes

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That is quite untrue why zoe is nerfed, and nothing to do with adc. Zoe is nerfed cause her kit is overpowered, its simple as that, a long range poke champ shouldnt have both mobility, short cds and instakill potentional. If you compare to other mages like lux, velkoz etc that have long range, they can instakill squishes on their combo, but they all have a weakness of low mobility and cooldowns to play around. While zoe just doesnt have any of those weakness, she has extremely high mobility and very short cds.

Also Kaisa is pretty bad even after the hotfix anyways, if you have issues playing against kaisa, you are really not playing this game properly.

Zoe has 0 mobility. ZERO. her portal jump is telegraphed to the exact same location after a 1 second delay. This is not being 'mobile'

Rexxiee1 votes

Except her damage was not buffed a single number?

They buffed her base ad by 3 i guess, but thats it.

So that made her damage go from fine to overpowered? Yeah im not buying this thread, specially considering her WR is still terrible and shes still weak.

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