does riot not see the troll potential in kindred?

Dracocrash··2 votes·1,298 views

"Lamb blesses the ground under an allied champion or herself for 3 seconds. While inside the area, all units (including champions, minions and monsters; both allied and enemy) cannot be reduced below 10% of their maximum health. Units in the area who reach the threshold cannot be healed while within for the remaining duration."

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LadyRenly9 votes

so what, they are supposed to not release anything cool because "troll"?

People will troll regardless. whether its disco nunu or azir jungle

Knight SoIaire 2 votes

so you are saying ... "Riot should release stuff without caring for any negative effects it might have on game because we want it dead already"

thats like the literal translation of what you said

you dont want them to stop trolling ... and they can do that ... they just want to make it in a way that wont require them to spend a dime
you dont want them to make healthy kits

you want them to push random "fun" stuff onto live to kill this game asap

well good for you ... you will get what you want ... too bad that i cant get a good game thanks to you

N0rth Wind3 votes

You're completely right. Because as we all know, the trolls have absolutely no way of ruining our games right now, but everything will change when this _one _ champion will be released, because of that _one _ ability that can _potentially _ assist enemies.

Cause, y'know, the only way these trolls have to troll is to use abilities that help the enemy team, that's why you _only _ see Bard, Trundle, Anivia, Kalista and Tahm Kench trolls. It's literally impossible to troll with champions that have simply, offensive kits like Brand, no matter what you do, you will help your team.

You can't afk, you can't steal kills, jungle camps and farm and then feed it to the enemies, you can't go trio bot and leave mid undefended, you can't build 6x item 3046 and run into their turrets until you're 0-56-0, you can't verbally harass your team, you can't tell the enemy team where your team is hiding or when a gank is approaching.

You can only troll if you have team-neutral abilities.

LordGeovanni1 votes

if being there when your team starts fights and running just for the heck of it to allow your team that needs your help isnt trolling idk what it and that is the most common type of trolling in the game i play trundle a good amount i dont troll just because im playing a troll. oh....

LordGeovanni3 votes

pudge can hook enemies and allies and creeps some how dota makes it work maybe they just have a more mature community

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

their community is the same ... but their gameplay design is diferent

LordGeovanni1 votes

their community is much more healthy less toxic guys the amount of toxic guys i get in dota 2 is like the amount i got 3 years ago in league where it only showed up like twice in 20 games. just the amount of leavers and that is what the current lol community wants to be able to just give up because other people left. grow a pair (not you specifically bra)

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

maybe its just the game that doesnt cause them to rage, did you consider that ?

LordGeovanni1 votes

have you played dota 2 the game can be far more frustrating than league dota isnt trying to hold the players hands as they fight they have farm more variety than league and i only go on it now and then

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

i played couple games

the feeling that dota gave me ... wasnt much of a frustration ... i felt more like im playing by myself

if i got fed i was the guy who did the most stuff ... if i didnt i was a minion

maybe dota has a calmer community because it doesnt force teamplay on you as lol does

in order to win a game of lol 5 random people who dont know eachother are FORCED to play as a team since those are random people with diferent skills ... fails occur if you get to witness many fails you couldnt prevent you become frustrated ... and frustration builds up resulting in a toxic community

in dota teamplay seems to be more role oriented ... you can be either a carry ...a babysitter or maybe an initiator

instead of wombo combos the teamplay of dota semed to center around people just knowing what is their role in a game ... which required just some knowledge instead of having perfect mechanics

im not sure if my opinion is valid ... but i dropped lol for cs go anyway ... cs go has more strategy annd is less frustrating (even when people headshot you faster than you can react)

LordGeovanni1 votes

i feel like dota forces team play more because unlike in lol if you have some one who is basically a minion and only one person is a threat its easy to take out that threat and leave the minion champion on the side for later and vice versa. league is basically play an in meta champion or lose while it seems in dota most of the things champions can do items can also do them so it makes for wider strategy

Mirage Seraph4 votes

Since Bard and Kalista, do you really think this is a concern to them? People will troll with or without this spell.

And hey, people have been trolling with Anivia, Jarvan, and Trundle for years. Not like this is any different.

disregardable3 votes

they do, they just don't care.

Marthian2 votes

That's pretty vague: They do know about it, but considering that if someone is going to troll, they will do it regardless of champion, so why try and balance towards trolls (which happen in a minority of games) when they can balance towards people that are actively trying to win?

(if that was your intent, then just ignore this post.)

TyroneWatermelon3 votes

Riot prefer new game mechanics and interaction above troll potential.

Athenes Lulu3 votes

Bard Kalista TahmKench hi

Koldheartedjsp2 votes

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Bard Kalista TahmKench hi

Beat me to it

Rito made these champs, they clearly do not care anymore (a very good thing imo) and aren't restrictions abilities based on possible griefing

Caraméla2 votes

what is this about trolling? I was hearing so much when bard came out that he is a troll champ and ppl will only troll with him... I have never seen a bard trolling! Who do u play with? 5 year olds?

Marthian2 votes

If they were worried about trolls, they wouldn't have released Bard, Tahm Kench, Kalista, or heck, even Anivia.

LordGeovanni2 votes

the possibility that people could troll with certain abilities mind set highly limiting league skills. the same way you have to trust your team to try not to feed the enemy every game and trust the enemy to help you when you needs it you have to trust allies to use their abilities to help you. its not like people like this dont just quit anyway when they see enemies get fed like they are supposed to snowball every game in a game with random matches of humans versus humans every game that is statistically improbable

insaiyanbacca1 votes

riot made kalista bard and tahm kench its clearly fine m8

Fiveofswords1 votes

yes they explained that they do see troll potential. they arent actually stupid. but they expect it will be fine.

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