Funny how poppy remained so very similar to her pre-rework state

Malicious Metal·Jan 6, 2017·8 votes·1,131 views

-Dive the enemy backline like it's nothing -Screw over tanks and squishies alike with strong damage -Never die -Like, never F*cking die -Ever

I feel if she didn't have such a Meh ult she'd be 100% pick or ban simply by the fact that she's too tanky for the damage she deals.

In my honest opinion, she might need a smaller scoped rework as she'd either be bad if her numbers are low or ridiculously strong when she's decent, especially in pro play. Scrapping her R, funneling some power into that spot and detracting from her base kit might be the way to go. Just my opinion though.

21 Comments

Big LincolnJan 6, 20177 votes

or you could just nerf her absurd tank steroids to require more commitment on her part

getting free stats for losing trades is pretty ridiculous.

as an aside i think it's funny how previously I'd get shouted down for suggesting Poppy wasn't the pinnacle of reworks and the amazing, healthy champion people thought she was, and now we're getting to the point people want her reworked again

Malicious MetalJan 6, 20174 votes

Why would people even say that when Sion exists?

Everything about that guy feels fair and he's such a thematically awesome champion.

Big LincolnJan 6, 20171 votes

so far we've only seen Sion as being either OP or completely irrelevant

i'm hugely disappointed with Sion myself so I'd never say his rework was good

DryditchJan 6, 20171 votes

I play him every now and then just to remind myself how sad the rework is.

It does feel good to land that 5 man ulti though.

JustusKayJan 6, 20172 votes

I remember building old sion like a adc and going top and becoming unkillable that was my jam

DryditchJan 9, 20171 votes

I used to roll through teamfights with a Zeke's Harbinger and come through the other side with an undying team.

XavanicJan 6, 20171 votes

Imo her passive should be on every tank, tanks should get more tank stats for being tanky then other roles, that was the problem of the tank assassin meta is tank stats on items are so overinflated that even assassins can build full tank and still do a fuck ton of dmg, if we start looking more into nerfing down the tank items and giving tanks way to get extra stats from those items i feel tanks would feel alot better then just being cc bots

Big LincolnJan 6, 20171 votes

if you want to break tanks, sure

most of them do scale better with tank stats. the ones with shields all have health scaling, a good chunk of the support tanks have armor/MR scaling

ImpmonCuteJan 6, 20173 votes

Yeah, she has a completely different kit to old poppy but still has the problems old poppy had and old poppy was actually more fun to play too.

OleandervineJan 6, 20173 votes

Are you trolling? She doesn't need an overhaul, she just needs tweaks. Her ult can be great, and actually does really well in pushing the lane.

EndlessSorcererJan 6, 20172 votes

AFAIK, they are planning to reduce the duration of her passive shield and the damage dealt by her uncharged ultimate.

While more changes might be necessary, I'd like to see the result of those first.

Asayake 5150glowJan 6, 20172 votes

Her ult is a decent AoE knock up, so it's really not that shit.

XavanicJan 6, 20172 votes

Trust me, she doesn't have the same problems, before her problem was she would ult the lowest damage person on the team and then everyone else had no way to stop her from killing them on top of the fact she was so tanky with no tank items, now her problem is shes a proper tank but due to CoC being so strong shes very difficult to deal with at all stages in the game, you can at least kill her unlike before where she was given nearly full damage immunity for 5 fucking seconds and built full damage and even when her ult was down, bursting her was impossible due to her insanely strong passive

WoonStruckJan 6, 20172 votes

Poppy's the true cancer of this game.

Yasuo was just a mid-boss.

RequiemsfireJan 6, 20172 votes

Yeaaah but her previous incarnation was by far unhealthy, she was a solo carry pubstomper that basically became invulnerable. Her current form is far healthier and actually has counterplay.

CaptainFaptonJan 6, 20171 votes

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-Dive the enemy backline like it's nothing -Screw over tanks and squishies alike with strong damage -Never die -Like, never F*cking die -Ever

I feel if she didn't have such a Meh ult she'd be 100% pick or ban simply by the fact that she's too tanky for the damage she deals.

In my honest opinion, she might need a smaller scoped rework as she'd either be bad if her numbers are low or ridiculously strong when she's decent, especially in pro play. Scrapping her R, funneling some power into that spot and detracting from her base kit might be the way to go. Just my opinion though.

When a full build good Draven cannot duel her mid game even if she's not fed in honesty is a sign she needs nerfs.

RalanrJan 6, 20173 votes

Two items and boots isn't full build. Don't lie.

NoobTangerangJan 6, 20171 votes

I WISH THEY REVERTED IT THE OLD POPPY MAY HAVE BEEN CANCEROUS BUT SHE WAS FUN AF. U LITERALLY ARE AS FAST AS SONIC WITH MAXED W AND SHIT TON OF ITEMS AND UR Q DOES OVER 9K DAMAGE I MISS THAT. IDK WHAT SEASON BUT THOSE WERE THE GOOD TIMES. item 3070

ArakadiaJan 6, 20172 votes

She wasn't fun at all to fight and she was literally absurd. She sucked the fun out of the game for the enemy.

ArakadiaJan 6, 20171 votes

I disagree. Her ultimate is incredibly strong if used right. If anything, I think they need to reduce her E stun duration in early ranks, decrease second Q damage's flat amount, and remove W damage/SLIGHTLY reduce her AD growth.

RalanrJan 6, 20171 votes

Gonna disagree with you on reworking her again Malicious. I think she just needs tweaks.

IMO I am still of the belief that her ult doesn't need damage at all.