Is righteous glory early mid or late game item?
Does it fall off even if it's meant for lane sustain?
Does it fall off even if it's meant for lane sustain?
I know one thing i've seen in LCS (or one of the pro leagues might have been LPL or Korea) is where a top lane Maokai will buy an early catalyst and then if too much time goes by before he can get Rod of Ages, he'll turn it into a Righteous Glory instead.
I'm not too sure how relevant this is to your question, just thought i'd toss that out there.
It doesn't really fall of because of it's amazing utillity and health. It's overall a great item that can be used on tanks without or with gapclosers that has a hard time getting kited. It's just very good haha.
Think of it as
except you trade 150 HP and its Passive for
's Active and Passive.
If you have a decent amount of Armor and MR (e.g. 250 Armor and 150 MR) it'll make you nice and tanky and will scale well into Late Game.
It is good to buy early (especially on junglers) because it is pretty cost efficient and combined with
and
it can make a pretty big impact - specifically in the Early-to-Mid Game.
I mean, those three items cost a measly (
2200g +
2800g +
2500g) 7500g.
I don't think warmog's is a good comparison. Correct me if i'm wrong, but the main reason to buy righteous glory is as an initiation tool. As such its a mid/mid-late game item that you want to have when team fights start breaking out.
I was questioning the valor reward but it's stats are good despite seemingly falling off in valor thingy
It's actually a great comparison. They both provide similar raw stats, but then you choose one over the other based on what else they provide.
Especially in the context of this thread. He's asking what scales better and whether or not it's a valid option to purchase it for particular point in time (i.e. Early, Mid and Late game).
In the end, as I've already stated, 150 HP isn't a huge difference and 650 HP scales well into late game if it's accompanied by other Defensive stats. You get Righteous Glory if you want to force engages, and Warmog's if you want to sustain through poke. In this meta, there's no real reason to get Warmog's as poke champions aren't particularly prominent due to the hard engage from tanks.
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It's actually a great comparison. They both provide similar raw stats, but then you choose one over the other based on what else they provide.
How is it a good comparison except that they both provide health? How is warmog's a better comparison to Righteous Glory than
?
I guess if you are just stacking health on top of cinderhulk, maybe, but then again Righteous Glory is also bought by support annie/leona amongst others.
They both provide similar raw stats, but then you choose one over the other based on what else they provide.
Reading more than just the first 5 words of what I write would be f*cking well appreciated mate.
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They both provide similar raw stats, but then you choose one over the other based on what else they provide.
Reading more than just the first 5 words of what I write would be f*cking well appreciated mate.
Or choose another of the 8 items i mentioned since all are health items.
Mid to late game item all the way. Its intended use is to assist team comps without any proper hard engage to be able to charge down poke-y kite-y team comps. Therefore it isn't particularly useful to rush before 1 or 2 other core items.
I don't think it's meant for lane sustain at all really. The fact that it builds out of catalyst is probably because they just wanted to have another item build out of it and it's a pretty good fit.
RG is best to have if you need it for initiations. Laning phase it shouldn't matter too much since you can go in w/ flash, but once you start to group and teamfight, its best to have this item. I say get it when you teamfight, so its whenever that happens.