Mordekaiser is back baby!

Malicious Metal··88 votes·5,865 views

With the recent changes Morde got some of the best changes since the rework hit live. He's gotten so much more usable in a solo lane while providing more counterplay than his old self. His E harass is down, his shield gain too, his w can fizzle if you kill the minion and he's really damn slow to boot.

But even though he got changed so much he feels like the old Mordekaiser again. His lategame prowess matches or maybe even surpasses his old self and he's finally gotten his lane presence back due to him finally having a full skillset.

There's only few things left to do, some rough edges that need to be smoothened out and Mordekaiser's finally a prime example of a Juggernaut mage. -Clone AI needs to be less clunky -Maybe give him 3 health per level to put him at 1817 Hp

But in the end I'd say the core issues have been mended and he's in good shape now but we'll see if he even needs some minor chiseling to make him a shining example of a heavy metal man.

http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29440248/mordeisback.jpg

143 Comments

Lazypeon10038 votes

Glad to see you're happy with him dude. You deserve it.

Now to see how my favorite Taric gem and Urgot crab do with their eventual reworks :3.

TheDiff4 votes

There is going to be an urgot rework??

Lazypeon1007 votes

He's in line for one. Riot doesn't like Urgot in his current iteration due to his lack of counter play when he is strong. Sort of like how Poppy was.

I can try to look around for red statements about it if you want, it has been mentioned a couple different times.

Fanny Forecast2 votes

Urgot is actually in meta rn. The AD itemization changes really buffed him. Youmuus rework is good on him as is the fact that CDR and Pen are so easy to come by now. He's a huge sleeper pick rn. Try him.

Manamune, Youmuus, Black Cleaver, Bers Greaves/Ninja Tabi, Deaths Dance (HUUUUGE. Lifesteal on his Qs), and others are situational. Youmuus can be forgotten if ahead, manamune CAN be replaced with iceborn, but i prefer manamune. If going ADC, replace cleaver (or just add) essence reaver.

Lazypeon1004 votes

Oh I know. I still play him a bunch. Also the popularity of zed has risen again which is great for urgot.

sp4414 votes

A thing that I love about Urgot is how malleable his building is. I'm CONSTANTLY thinking about the situation and what Item should I pick for it, outside of Manamune, there's not really an Item that I know with 100% certainty that I will build. I wish it was like that for every champion.

DeathBurst2 votes

He's roughly in the same spot as Yorick and Warwick. All 3 of them are supposed to get a rework someday because their kits are greatly outdated, but Riot need to find the time/resources to make it happen.

Gaxloom2 votes

he deserves it? i deserve challenjour but do u c me with challenjour?

Lazypeon1006 votes

I'm personally saying he deserves it. He has been posting consistently ever since the morde rework to try to get him in both a good thematic place and state of balance.

Riot doesn't have to do anything for him, and I'm certain they aren't doing it just because of what he posts. But morde deserves it, and malicious metal deserves some kind of praise for speaking out about an issue that may have just been left to rot like so many others.

Somehow, I don't think you see it that way though.

Timely Voidling17 votes

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Malicious Metal23 votes

15 Base armor

The dream.

Timely Voidling21 votes

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Malicious Metal7 votes

Eh, I could live with low base armor since it's a great was to keep him in check bot lane due to ADC's doing well... mostly ad damage.

Some more health couldn't hurt though since he has some of the lowest base health, health/level, armor and Ms in the entire game.

But hey, I'm glad Morde's finally back home. Missed the big guy.

Timely Voidling2 votes

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Malicious Metal4 votes

Riot better not meddle with the eye of the void. He looks like Sauron's eye, soo....

TotalJerk1 votes

Off the top of my head Thresh and Ori are lower. Thresh has 16 and Orianna has 17-point-something.

Poske3 votes

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Off the top of my head Thresh and Ori are lower. Thresh has 16 and Orianna has 17-point-something.

And then ori levels e and gains armor for free while thresh collects souls

Oh ori also has like 37 base dmg because of her passive..

Riot guts base stats to add passives xd

TotalJerk2 votes

This is why I love Veigar, he's the only champion that doesn't have fake passives. His mana regen is decent by itself without his passive, and despite the fact that he gets free AP from stacking Q, they don't just gimp his ratios or base numbers.

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

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Riot immediately after seeing this:

"We believe that we gave Mordekaiser too much power with this recent patch, so to compensate we're going to take off another 5 base armor."

"And in the meantime, here's another patch of Leblanc buffs"

Dr Birdie13 votes

Man. You have got to be the most patient and stubborn (in a good way) mother f*ckers I have ever seen.

Love you Metal. <3

Utility Veigar11 votes

Good. Now you can stop spamming the boards like a little girl stomping the ground because she didn't get what she want.

Malicious Metal76 votes

But mooooom, I need more base health :'((((

GenoXx3 votes

Vovo is right though. You post like a spoiled child.

blueberrypancake12 votes

I think spoiled children can also understand sarcasm

GenoXx2 votes

This guy literally spams post until riot does wut he wants....so pls

cllesh4 votes

and it is a lesson to us all who want something from riot

sona... can i hear u sona?

yoniame2 votes

she got muted and wrecked remember? (fuck windspeaker mastery, all new mastery sucks for her)

DJ S0NA1 votes

Meh. Windspeaker's is actually good for her...

yoniame2 votes

technically its the only good mastery for her, since she can't activate thunderlord for pokes, deathfire procs the low damage with her, and she can'T activate storm surge (even if she could, it doesn'T gives combat stats so its not worth much) but i hate that fucking "yay lets all be like Soraka" mastery -.-

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

Except MM actually has intelligent posts that dissect why the champion feels off and what can be done to improve. He posts constructive criticism which is a phrase that you clearly don't understand as you call him a "spoiled child".

GenoXx1 votes

U can bias- defend him all u want.....

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

I never said he wasn't biased, but his posts are constructive in nature. If you'd like to learn from his example you can drop the "spoiled child" ad hominem and explain why you think his posts are unwarranted with specific criticisms and constructive feedback.

GenoXx1 votes

I'm talking about you

TotalJerk35 votes

Malicious Metal is a fucking example that everyone dissatisfied with Riot's decisions should follow. We need more people on the boards like him who have logically sound opinions that are civilly and articulately expressed, along with sensible suggestions about what could be improved instead of the constant stream of hate circlejerkers, tinfoil conspiracies, and people who have no idea what they're talking about strutting around like they know balance.

A Superb Villain4 votes

I am glad the most metal of emperors is in a reasonable place that you find sufficient for your enjoyment. May he continually improve until nothing can be done to make him more perfect.

Ralanr3 votes

Glad to see you're happy.

Do you play blinds often or just goofing off?

Malicious Metal4 votes

I play them a lot since they're less stressful than ranked and with Morde having been changed left, right and center I wasn't confident enough to take him into ranked.

Now with these changes I'm anxious to do my season six provisionals. Hue!

But yeah, I like the less stressful atmosphere of blind pick and it sometime's just the right thing after a long day. Heck, I even like having to play roles I never even touch for a change.

IsmokeOregano2 votes

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Blitzedlegend1 votes

I repeat CODE RED

HayRoss1 votes

What did he say?

Blitzedlegend1 votes

He said nothing toxic, he was joking around. Im not sure why he deleated it

Malicious Metal6 votes

He doesn't want to give riot any ideas XD

Blitzedlegend2 votes

XD

chipndip12 votes

How many of these were Mord bot lane though?

Fat Bastard GOD1 votes

How did you snowball so hard? What did you rush? And shouldn't they buff his W on minions so waveclear isn't as potent? I think the minion marked should take a bit less damage. If fighting a champion with decent waveclear they can disable your W really fast. But hey I guess that's the counter play :P

Malicious Metal12 votes

He does need this counterplay because his W/E can decimate entire waves.

As for the snowballing, well. I tend to poke them with E up to the point where I can freeze by standing between them and my minions, charging my Q on their own and make them chose their life or cs. If they get desperate they get smacked by Q numero tres, an ignite and maybe even children of the grave. Rushing Rylais for the health, ap and slow makes Morde able to force fights since he'll be slowing his opponent and making them eat all the charges of Mace of spades. From there on I just push 24/7 and roam once i get their tier1 and maybe tier 2 tower.

Getting a dragon ghost, helping out mid while ganking bot is brutal.

My usual build order's item 3116 >item 3053 >item 3146 >item 3065 >item 3157 Boots can vary but after these changes I like to get the MPen once again.

Fat Bastard GOD1 votes

What runes/masteries do you take?

Morde can lvl 1 cheese Nidalee with ignite.

Malicious Metal5 votes

12/0/18 with grasp of the undying but i may switch to 18/0/12 Deathfire touch if matched against a ranged damage dealer.

Runes; -MS Quints -Health/level seals -Ap/level blues or scaling Mr, matchup dependent -Magic Pen marks but I'm currently trying my luck with hybrid pen.

Pentarina Only1 votes

All of those matches were before his re-work...

Baron of Bread4 votes

Did you misread the 2016? Because they are most definitely after the rework and even the most recent patch.

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