Destroyed champion, what kayle in the final lost after nerfs?

GG Noob Team·Jun 15, 2015·1 votes·798 views

Q: 1.0 ap > 0.6 AP Damage bonus amplify 13% > 0% Slow 35% > 35 / 40 / 45 / 50 / 55% Duration of slow 4 sec > 3 sec

W: 0.35 AP > 0.45 AP Cast range 1000 > 900 +7% ms boost per 100 AP

E: 0.4 AP > 0.25 AP

R: Cooldown increased to 90 / 75 / 60 > 100 / 90 / 80 Cast range 1200 > 900 Mana cost removed

Stats: Attack speed per lvl 2.5% > 2.2% Mres per lvl 0.75 > 0

So in final, she got 9 direct overdone nerfs and 4 small buffs to compensate. Kayle losed 0.55 ap scaling from Q+auto and a 13% bonus damage. Her Q however still at 1 lvl has more mana cost than base damage it provides...

And im not surprised why this champion has only 1.9% pick ratio http://www.lolking.net/champions/ The champion has no fight back to any competitive, played often character until it get some items to power up. What is the point to have this champion after all right now?

5 Comments

3TWarriorJun 15, 20151 votes

well, she can make the carry unkillable for 2-3 seconds, but other than that, idk. I don't know that secret kayle players have when they own

there are even kayle junglers but I think that changed with the jungler item changes

GG Noob TeamJun 15, 20151 votes

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well, she can make the carry unkillable for 2-3 seconds, but other than that, idk. I don't know that secret kayle players have when they own

there are even kayle junglers but I think that changed with the jungler item changes

Im playing her and my secret is... Do not fight with anyone at all, just Q > auto and run away. This is the only effective way to play her now, even if you are ahread, it is impossible to duel with ANY competitive champion out there like ekko, jax, xin zhao, ahri. Some of them just mechanically crush you and some of them just outscale you badly, even havign 1 item less. This is sad.

MLDzXnRRRJun 15, 20151 votes

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Im playing her and my secret is... Do not fight with anyone at all, just Q > auto and run away. This is the only effective way to play her now, even if you are ahread, it is impossible to duel with ANY competitive champion out there like ekko, jax, xin zhao, ahri. Some of them just mechanically crush you and some of them just outscale you badly, even havign 1 item less. This is sad.

Since when is Xin Zhao competetive or outscales anyone? Kayle brings enough utility to win every teamfight, making the adc/apc unkillable

GG Noob TeamJun 15, 20151 votes

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Since when is Xin Zhao competetive or outscales anyone? Kayle brings enough utility to win every teamfight, making the adc/apc unkillable

Adc/apc is unkillable, but it could be CC'ed and killed later. It is the thing that could be seen strong on paper, but in reality anybody know how to react to this, and they just CC you, wait until its gone and send you into the oblivion. Kayle ultimate does not provide CC immunity. Xin is competitive since he has 11%+ pick ratio.

I just wonder, you never played the kayle by yourself and keep telling that, her ultimate is broken, because it blocks damage, but not see the disadvantages this ultimate brings to the kayle, like taking away the possible high damaging ability or some form of CC mixed with damage. This ultimate has so many counter plays, it is not near as good as ekko ult for example. In fact, you have to be very experienced kayle player to actually make any use from this ultimate if you dont want to be wasted, because enemies does not waste their skills into this ult. I played a tons games with kayles and against kayles. Meeting a good kayle is rare nowadays, nobody could play her effectively anymore due to how incredibly gimped this champion is.

MLDzXnRRRJun 15, 20151 votes

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Adc/apc is unkillable, but it could be CC'ed and killed later. It is the thing that could be seen strong on paper, but in reality anybody know how to react to this, and they just CC you, wait until its gone and send you into the oblivion. Kayle ultimate does not provide CC immunity. Xin is competitive since he has 11%+ pick ratio.

I just wonder, you never played the kayle by yourself and keep telling that, her ultimate is broken, because it blocks damage, but not see the disadvantages this ultimate brings to the kayle, like taking away the possible high damaging ability or some form of CC mixed with damage. This ultimate has so many counter plays, it is not near as good as ekko ult for example. In fact, you have to be very experienced kayle player to actually make any use from this ultimate if you dont want to be wasted, because enemies does not waste their skills into this ult. I played a tons games with kayles and against kayles. Meeting a good kayle is rare nowadays, nobody could play her effectively anymore due to how incredibly gimped this champion is.

I have 84.6% winrate with her in ranked and is my second most played champion there. She is fine, they can change her a bit/ I reached Platinum with her, stopped playing her, because she is so boring. (Btw Platinum is the real Elo hell, just got demoted to Platinum 5). Kayle has no skillshots and is annoying for the melee champions who can't gapclose with blink. Xin is trash compared to her - his early ganks can be deadly, but he becomes more than useless after that. He doesn't have the raw dmg of the other champions who build tank and still output high damage. His CC is not very good + he can't escape, if he goes in. You can see in competetive players going bruiser fizz, ekko etc, because of their escapes. Xin goes in and instapops.